[game_edu] [JOB] changed to discussion

[Andrew Armstrong]

I was going to say something similar; the education list wouldn't really 
be applicable for normal game jobs (I guess that person also only joined 
just to post that one job). Same with some of the other lists I'm on 
(the Preservation SIG throws up odd archive and related library jobs, 
but probably less then the fingers on one hand from the time I've 
started on it!).

It's probably a good idea to keep an eye on it, Susan, if nothing else :)

Andrew

Ian Schreiber wrote:

> The main problem with this particular post is relevance. The person is 

> a recruiter looking for someone with industry experience to join the 

> industry. That means it is likely irrelevant to most of us on this 

> list (we've chosen to go into teaching, even those of us with industry 

> experience), and also to most of our students (who generally lack the 

> qualifications listed in the posting). It appears to be a blanket 

> email that was probably shotgunned to many different lists, given its 

> lack of targeting to the academic audience here.

>  

> Ironically, I will probably keep a copy of the original posting to use 

> in my classes, so it ends up being relevant for me as an educator. One 

> of my classes is about the game industry (job roles/responsibilities, 

> history, culture, business models, jargon, and so on), and one of the 

> topics I cover is professional recruiters. I tell students that some 

> recruiters are more reputable than others, and that some make every 

> effort to get to know both you and the companies personally and 

> professionally in order to find a good fit, while others are just 

> looking to get butts in seats with minimum effort to collect maximum 

> commissions. The original posting (and its context within this mailing 

> list) will make a great point of discussion. In-class discussion 

> question for students: would you want this person representing you in 

> your job search? :-)

>  

> - Ian

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> *From:* Susan Gold <goldfile at gmail.com>

> *To:* IGDA Game Education Listserv <game_edu at igda.org>

> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:27:57 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [game_edu] [JOB] changed to discussion

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> So what do you all think about having someone post jobs on the 

> listserv? I do not monitor who requests membership to our listserv, 

> however, this seems like the 1st time someacademicone has ever posted 

> a job on the list that was not academic. What are your thoughts, 

> should we allow this type of posting? Should we even allow academic 

> job postings? I would like to get your feelings and possibly come up 

> with some stipulations or recommendations. The IGDA is about to launch 

> a new website and with it many more communication tools. Should we add 

> content like job openings to the site? If so, do you want to be in 

> charge of it? Should they be limited to purely academic in nature? 

> Although I am not too big on tight governance, I think we have grown 

> to a reasonable size ~800 folks. I think we should have a discussion 

> about what to do with jobs, equal to what we do with CFP? In addition, 

> we should have an expanded web presence, not just a list. What are 

> some of the things we can move off the list and onto the site? I post 

> slides from talks and photos from conferences, but that is about all. 

> We are volunteer based and the SIG and this list is what you make it. 

> We have a new school year coming up, new opportunities for 

> collaboration and I hope possibilities for growth in our organization. 

>

> Susan

>

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> On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Beau Gould (OSS) wrote:

>

>> Flash Game Developers, San Francisco, CA | 75-140k

>>

>> My client is looking for Flash Developers to become part of their

>> talented team of engineers. Flash Developers get to build viral, fun,

>> social games that are viewed by millions!

>>

>> Required Skills:

>> * B.S. in Computer Science, or equivalent experience

>> * 3+ years of solid software development experience

>> * Expertise in Flash Development: ActionScript, CPU/Memory optimization,

>> JavaScript/Flash bridging, Cross-browser compatibility

>> * Extensive design and game development experience

>> * Strong knowledge of software development life cycle

>> * Strong analytical skills and ability to assist other team members in

>> problem solving

>> * Please include examples of your work when applying

>>

>> Competitive salary, stock options & 401k

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>>

>> To be considered, please submit your resume and preferably a portfolio

>> as well, along with your salary requirements to

>> beau-AT-open-source-staffing.com 

>> <http://beau-at-open-source-staffing.com/>  

>>

>> Thank you,

>>

>> Beau J. Gould

>> Open Source Staffing

>> www.open-source-staffing.com <http://www.open-source-staffing.com/>

>> beau-AT-open-source-staffing.com

>>

>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/GameJobz

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