[game_edu] Dept of Labor Data

[Gregory Walek]

That's correct. The 10-12% figure is accurate. 

The issue here the need for data from the Department of Labor. This was
the case on my campus regarding scholarships for students in
non-traditional majors (ie. Females in game development). As the email
described, the Dept of Labor DOES NOT have data on the game industry,
and the BLS explained why. Thus the next best data is from software
enginering. The email from BLS also provides justification for use of
that data.

So what I'm providing here is at best only a bandaid and workaround. You
should be using the IDGA figures over the BLS and US Dept of Labor ones.
As for the BLS and US Dept of Labor, the real solution to this problem
is to ensure they have real data.     

Gregory Walek
Professor, Animation and Graphic Game Programming
gWalek at ccsnh.edu 

New Hampshire Technical Institute
31 College Drive
Concord, NH 03301-7412
Office: 603.271.7707
-----Original Message-----
From: game_edu-bounces at igda.org [mailto:game_edu-bounces at igda.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Parker
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:49 PM
To: IGDA Game Education Listserv
Subject: Re: [game_edu] Dept of Labor Data

A number of sources, including IGDA, give females as being 10-12% of the
overall group.

 Be wary of lumping in with software engineers. Game development
generally is not a software business.

J

Gregory Walek wrote:

> Thanks lead on the 2000 report, Dan.

> That lead me to The US Beaureau of Labor Statistics (which is apart of



> the Dept of Labor)

>  

> The email below is the information I got back from them.

> I hope this helps someone else as it does me.

>  

>  - Greg

>  

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> --

> *From:* Gillham, Cynthia - BLS [mailto:Gillham.Cynthia at bls.gov]

> *Sent:* Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:53 PM

> *To:* Gregory Walek

> *Subject:* % of females in gaming industry

>

> Hello,

>

> The correct NAICS code for the gaming industry is 334511, and our 

> industry classification system was last updated in 2007, not 2002 as I



> mentioned incorrectly.

>

> I cant find data for the % of female workers in this industry, though,



> because it's such a detailed industry classification.

>

> Instead, I found that within the computer software engineer occupation



> there are 1,034 thousand employees and 20.9 percent are women.  The 

> data is available from this link:

> _http://www.bls.gov/opub/ee/empearn200901.pdf_, on page 212/320.  In 

> comparison 46.7 percent of those employed are women across all

industries.

>

> Gaming occupations are included in the computer software engineer 

> occupation, Standard Occupational Classification  15-1030.  More 

> specifically, they are included in the Computer Software Engineers, 

> Applications occupation, but we do not have data at that level of

detail.

>

> This broad occupation includes the following two detailed occupations:

> *Computer Software Engineers, Applications* - Develop, create, and 

> modify general computer applications software or specialized utility 

> programs.  Analyze needs and develop software.  Design software or 

> customize software.

>

> *Computer Software Engineers, Systems Software* - Research, design, 

> develop, and test operating systems-level software.

>

> Please feel to contact me with any additional questions.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Cynthia Gillham

> Bureau of Labor Statistics

> Economic Analysis & Information

> Boston, MA

> Phone: 617-565-2329

>

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