[games_access] accessible madden

hinn at uiuc.edu hinn at uiuc.edu
Sat Nov 18 15:36:44 EST 2006


Well, more like a gamer who is quadriplegic cannot use an unadapted controller -- instead these are the variety of controllers that exist and this is how they are used. However you are not limited to using only these controllers -- if your game requires a new type of controller (like games like guitar hero), then you can build your game around that. :)

---- Original message ----
>Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:11:44 -0500
>From: "Robert Florio" <arthit73 at cablespeed.com>  
>Subject: Re: [games_access] accessible madden  
>To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'" <games_access at igda.org>
>
>I will get working on a few examples .  Thank you for  that example I know
>and understand what we're looking for.  So perhaps I could list a few
>reminder statements like, keep in mind; gamers with physical impairments can
>not use their fingers at all so in that situation what would you create to
>bring a solution to this problem?
>
>Something like that?
>
>Also I sent you so photographs I took yesterday of me using the
>QuadController for the article.
>
>Robert 
>www.RobertFlorio.com 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
>On Behalf Of hinn at uiuc.edu
>Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 3:04 PM
>To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [games_access] accessible madden
>
>Hey Robert and Jason,
>
>I think that standards are one thing to think about for info to developers
>in general. For this contest -- keep in mind that it's designed to be funny
>because we'll be poking fun at the contestants a bit and so we kind of want
>them to make a few errors so we can say "ok...so why did you think that
>someone who can't move their leg could use a controller that relied on their
>knee?" Ok, that was a little dramatic but you get the idea. ;)
>
>So we don't want to tell them too much because we have to pick one
>winner...as only one designer...can be...the accessibility idol!
>
>So for the contest we need to give them information on how you, as a
>quadriplegic gamer, games. Not so much information on what they need to do
>with regard to "menu x needs to be place in location blah, blah, blah" --
>that part is up to them. They are smart people and have "been there, done
>that." So we need to give them the freedom to think about ways of gaming
>that we may not have thought of that might be a genius (and accessible) new
>design. At the same time, we also help demonstrate things that we want to
>show the audience because they will make accessibility errors...and those
>are our "teachable moments."
>
>Does that explain things a bit more clearly? So we need to tell them about
>the gamers they are designing for but not so much what they need/solutions
>design-wise. Because then we face the risk that it would just be an
>informational session rather than a flashy, tacky, made for tv,
>attention-grabbing extravaganza!
>
>Michelle
>
>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:40:37 -0500
>>From: "Robert Florio" <arthit73 at cablespeed.com>  
>>Subject: Re: [games_access] accessible madden  
>>To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'" <games_access at igda.org>
>>
>>Jason I think you and I play QuadController so much we would have a good
>>idea to put something together together for some standards since I'll be
>one
>>of the judges there.  
>>
>>I haven't heard anything yet like Michelle mentions putting together a list
>>of things for developers to follow I'm looking forward to hearing that in
>>our meetings to go or I could start doing that. 
>>
>>Robert
>>www.RobertFlorio.com 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
>>On Behalf Of hinn at uiuc.edu
>>Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:43 PM
>>To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [games_access] accessible madden
>>
>>Cool Jason -- So for our game celeb contestants, here's what would be
>>helpful to provide for them:
>>
>>Info about how a quadriplegic gamer plays a number of games would be
>>helpful, especially information on how much you can set up yourself and
>when
>>something about the game requires a friend to assist. That, and top very
>>annoying things that remain inaccessible to you when you play console games
>>and what kind of controller set up you have.
>>
>>The contestants are all game designers who have been in the mainstream
>>gaming biz for, at least, 10-15 years...some much, much longer! So their
>>challenge is to create a game design assuming that a large part of their
>>audience will be gamers with mobility disabilities BUT that they may also
>>not have a mobility disability (ie, fun and playable for quadriplegic and
>>non-quadriplegic gamers from the start). They are also challenged to not
>>come up with "crazy katamari nba super mario, part ten" but something way
>>out there and is "new" rather than a game that's made and then, oh yeah,
>>lets now think about accessibility.
>>
>>Michelle
>>
>>---- Original message ----
>>>Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:44:51 -0600
>>>From: "Jason Price" <no1cwbyfan at cox.net>  
>>>Subject: Re: [games_access] accessible madden  
>>>To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'" <games_access at igda.org>
>>>
>>>   Link: File-List
>>>   Link: Edit-Time-Data
>>>
>>>   I'm a long time quad madden player if I can help in
>>>   any way
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>   ----------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>   From: games_access-bounces at igda.org
>>>   [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of
>>>   Barrie Ellis
>>>   Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 3:53 AM
>>>   To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>>>   Subject: Re: [games_access] hotel reservations GDC
>>>   2007
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>   Okay to post this link around now, Michelle? Noticed
>>>   it was an https address, so I want to check with you
>>>   first.
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>   https://www.cmpevents.com/GD07/a.asp?option=C&V=11&SessID=3887
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>   Barrie
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>     From: d. michelle hinn
>>>
>>>     To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>>>
>>>     Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:32 PM
>>>
>>>     Subject: Re: [games_access] hotel reservations GDC
>>>     2007
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>       > it's gotta be mainstream but also provide
>>>       something that focuses on
>>>       disability as a strength...
>>>
>>>       Sorry - I'm haven't had a chance to learn about
>>>       the accessibility-idol
>>>       project. But just a couple of ideas that maybe
>>>       can help the contestants in
>>>
>>>       their first steps:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     Thanks Amit! So the competition will be live at
>>>     GDC in March and we have 5 very seasoned industry
>>>     veterans (We have coverages from Ultima to the
>>>     Madden game series) who have accepted the
>>>     challenge to make a mainstream game accessible for
>>>     gamers with mobility disabilities. So it's not a
>>>     project in as much a "reality show" style session
>>>     to hopefully pack people in to see what the famous
>>>     people are doing messing about with accessibility!
>>>     So basically what they need from us is information
>>>     on how a gamer who is quadriplegic plays games and
>>>     then it's up to them to design something awesome.
>>>     They'll just be presenting designs rather than
>>>     finished projects (too little time and they are
>>>     very busy people) but it will be a game
>>>     show/reality show presentation where one of them
>>>     will be named....
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     The Accessibility Idol
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     :)
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     The GDC site for the session is at:
>>>
>>>     https://www.cmpevents.com/GD07/a.asp?option=C&V=11&SessID=3887
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     We're hoping this will bring a lot of attention to
>>>     the issue of game accessibility for mainstream
>>>     games.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     Michelle
>>>
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losing hope. it's hard for many people 
to believe that there are extraordinary 
things inside themselves, as well as 
others. i hope you can keep an open 
mind.
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