[games_access] to Michelle RE: Fwd: Re Canadian Press article

Tue Nov 28 18:42:55 EST 2006

I agree. I personally believe it to be mostly a combination of ignorance and laziness. People enjoy working on  "cool" features like graphics, audio,  and AI. If you ask people if they'd rather be developing a multiplayer engine or putting in closed captioning in FMVs... well, you get the picture.

Two things need to happen to get accessibility into games. 1) Management needs to mandate it. 2) Developers must understand the need for it.

Of course, now I'm just preaching to the choir. J

-Brannon

From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Barrie Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:34 AM
To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [games_access] to Michelle RE: Fwd: Re Canadian Press article

"nobody on my team is interested in that kind of stuff" - translates roughly as we are deeply ignorant about the small things that could help massively. Like fully reconfigurable controls, speed control, 'very, very easy' difficulty options, (drones on and on for ever).

If Atari could do it in 1977, with difficulty adjustment for each player and a "special feature" for children, then what stops someone doing it for 2007? It's a joke, and not a very funny one.

Barrie
www.OneSwitch.org.uk<http://www.OneSwitch.org.uk>
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From: Robert Florio<mailto:arthit73 at cablespeed.com>
To: 'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'<mailto:games_access at igda.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 5:57 PM
Subject: [games_access] to Michelle RE: Fwd: Re Canadian Press article

Thanks for the link Michelle it was a great story still too bad they couldn't put my web site on there I think that more people would've liked to see what the controller really looks like up close.  Anyways it's an honor to be a part of this and thanks for including me and what you do by passion and your passion together shines so much it's so wonderful.  I know what you mean about those heartbreaking e-mails I get a few now and again from quadriplegics looking for a system and they see my mouth controller and love it.

I'm going to try to derail David.  Can't you see if I can meet up with him again somehow I really would like to if at all possible work on working with him some day I really feel connected to what he doesn't think because of that game the matrix path of Neo it's the only game of come across I can virtually play almost 100% with that controller no other game ever.  So if he has that ability I think I should e-mail him see if we can meet for lunch or something or one of the parties was wondering if you could help me to do that it would really help with a job opportunity I think maybe someday I could pitch my idea I've been working on for three years and hopefully be a huge part of its development.  It's a wish but why not.

Now I'm putting together this documentary and I got such great footage and when I met with David Perry you and I, I asked him if he would be willing to create more of these features in his games.  In his reply literally was "nobody on my team is interested in that kind of stuff" and then he virtually shut down with no other thing to say like these developers are completely lost with the concept.  He did express though that he understood the need for it and was genuinely listening to me I just wonder what I have to do to get through to him but I shouldn't give up.

Robert
www.RobertFlorio.com<http://www.robertflorio.com/>

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From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of d. michelle hinn
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 6:57 PM
To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [games_access] Fwd: Re Canadian Press article

It was Neil Davidson from the Canadian Press (Canada's version of the Associated Press) -- he's a senior editor there and was covering the Montreal Game Summit. And, yes, that was who I was collecting pictures for. It wasn't that he didn't include our lines, I think, as much as he included some links that would get you TO everyone's links. So I can see why he did it -- a giant list of links in a newspaper doesn't do much good. I didn't have editorial control over the article, as it's a freedom of the press kind of thing so I didn't see it until today...the day after it came out.

The article is appended at the end of this email and the original email I sent out. If you go to:

http://wham.canoe.ca/news/2006/11/20/2430839-cp.html

You'll see that your picture is in the article, Robert. :) And your name.

Michelle

Who wrote the article is my question is this the one that Michelle was collecting photographs about quad controller that story?  It's a little distressing that they didn't include our links.  I think the readers would want to learn more about that and says that such a hard sell area any information people can get gather for a would be great but a kick that it might next time just to make sure the people know they should really stress links to the people they're putting articles on about.  Where can I read that anyway?

No big deal here just great to know.  Thank you Michelle for that effort still amazing always your effort is always appreciated.  One great thing about our group we are always helping each other out not arguing with each other getting no where and we can actually accomplished a lot in this area of interest because it's all of our goals.

Robert
www.RobertFlorio.com<http://www.robertflorio.com/>

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From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of Barrie Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:44 PM
To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [games_access] Fwd: Re Canadian Press article

Get a grip, Michelle! We know you're not a big-head. We won't let you be! So feel easier about posting your narcissitic accessibility articles(!).

Seriously though, it's a very good article, and I personally see the IGDA/GASIG and Game-Accessibility.com plugs as plugs for us all to be honest.

Barrie

----- Original Message -----
From: d. michelle hinn<mailto:hinn at uiuc.edu>
To: games_access at igda.org<mailto:games_access at igda.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:53 PM
Subject: [games_access] Fwd: Re Canadian Press article

Hi all,

Ok...I didn't know that this article was going to be so focused on me. And Reid...I'm sorry games [cc] wasn't on the links. And Robert, I'm sorry that your site wasn't on the list either. And Barrie, and etc, etc, etc. The author found a few overall links. But he's a very nice guy and when we have major updates in the future, we should definitely include him in our PR stuff. He's a good guy to be in touch with for all of us!

And Microsoft is gonna hate me. But I think Brannon (on this list) would also agree that accessibility is a hard sell within gaming, although it was great that he was able to talk about accessibility at Game Fest.

Oh...you know, it's really not easy for me to point out articles that I'm included in. I'm trying to get over it but it took me a while for me to feel ok about forwarding it...

<blush>

Michelle
Your press shy chairperson...

To: "'d. michelle hinn'" <hinn at uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re Canadian Press article
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:27:52 -0500
Hi Michelle
Our story moved yesterday. I have attached a link showing it on the Sun newspaper chain website up here. Also a copy of the story is below.
Thanks for taking the time to speak to me and for helping with the pictures. I wish you well and hope you will keep me updated on your group. I would be interested in following up.
Regards
Neil Davidson

http://wham.canoe.ca/news/2006/11/20/2430839-cp.html
Michelle Hinn campaigns for more accessibility for disabled gamers (GAMES-Disabled)
Nov 20, 2006 11:51
By Neil Davidson
The Canadian Press
Game developers take Michelle Hinn's phone calls these days. But they may not always like what she has to say.
Hinn is chair of a special interest group in game accessibility that's part of the International Game Developers Association. The adjunct professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign is passionate about her cause, opening up video gaming to the disabled.
``This is a social justice issue, this is not just a gaming issue,'' Hinn told a seminar at the recent Montreal International Game Summit.
So Hinn campaigns for developers to think about captioning games, allowing controllers to be remapped, offering easier modes of play, better manuals _ and to rethink the kind of titles they make.
The payoff can be rewarding.
``We have one member who also has mobility impairment and said he was able to dance for the first time in an online role-playing game and that was amazing to him,'' Hinn said in an interview.
Access to gaming can also promote a sense of inclusion, said Hinn, citing the case of a blind gamer who just wanted to be able to say to a friend ```Yeah, I got such and such score on that, what did you get?'''
``So we're no longer talking about `oh, this is my friend who has a disability.' It's `this is my friend that just kicked my butt in this game,''' said Hinn. ``It's a very interesting and very powerful social tool, I think.''
Part of her group's job is also to share information and tips _ and to correct false assumptions.
Hinn's group has been active as a fully fledged special interest group for about four years now. She speaks to major gaming conferences and works behind the scenes with console manufacturers and game developers.
While there is much more work to be done, the developers now know who she is.
``Yes, I'm getting e-mails back from people, like Will Wright who created The Sims,'' Hinn said, with a slight sense of disbelief.
And there have been success stories. Hinn points to such enlightened developers as Namco and Valve, which after getting complaints offered full captioning on the hit game Half-Life 2.
In some cases, it's a matter of convincing developers that thinking of the disabled does not have to mean not including game features but rather new ways to access these features. And to have them think out of the box.
Hinn cites the game DEMOR for the vision-impaired _ imagine a sophisticated pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey game that uses GPS. She also notes that games that only call for one button, currently popular in cellphone games, have been used by quadriplegic gamers ``forever.''

Hinn's group is also trying new ways to get developers involved. One of the current projects is dubbed Accessibility Idol and involves inviting some big-name developers to show up at the Game Developers Conference with an idea for a game for the mobility-impaired.
``We're thinking of an avid gamer who was in an accident and is now quadriplegic and loves to play games and loves to play games with his friends who don't have disabilities,'' Hinn explained.
Many developers are astounded at the lengths that people will go to play their game. At GDC, they showed developer David Perry footage of a quadriplegic gamer playing The Matrix: Path of Neo using a quad controller that uses ``sip and puff'' tubes to control the action.
``The look on his face was astounding,'' Hinn said of Perry. ``Because it's touching when you see something that you've created and see what someone does in order to access your game because they think that it's so important to their lives.''
``I think it really puts some things into perspective of what kind of impact the gaming industry has on people's psychological well-being.''
Hinn's unpaid game accessibility work is piggybacked on top of an already busy schedule. She teaches courses on video game design at the University of Illinois and runs a ``living-learning community,'' which she explains is like a small college within the university for women majoring in math, science and engineering.

Hinn, who has a BA in music performance, a B.Sc. in psychology and MA in multimedia in design, was recently named one of the ``Game Industry's 100 Most Influential Women'' by the online magazine Next Generation.
``I'm always looking for injustice and trying to do research that in some ways helps,'' Hinn explained. ``OK, maybe this is not the most important issue in the universe but for some people it is.''
Hinn has dealt with problems of her own. She is dyslexic, although she wasn't diagnosed until she was about to graduate from undergraduate school.
``I guess I felt a kind of personal tug in my heart, knowing I had somehow gotten through school with good grades despite having this reading disability.''
``Then later I started developing a condition that gives me chronic pain. It just happens here and there and so I've become more aware in recent years of my own body kind of shutting down on itself and the importance of having things to do when that happens, I mean who wants to just sit there with nothing to do?''
The term disabled run the gamut _ from vision-, hearing- and mobility-impaired issues to those caused by aging, genetics or accidents.
Hinn says she gets e-mails all the times from parents or doctors asking about how to get hold of a certain controller.
``Those are the heartbreaker e-mails,'' she said. ``You hate that's what brought a parent into the field but if we can help, just keep a child from being depressed, helping them feel more included in the world and in touch with friend groups, if more online multiplayer games were more accessible, that would open up a huge range of social possibilities.''
``We're always talking about bad things that happen on the web and online games but that's one of the positives, no one knows you're disabled online.''
But the sands are ever shifting. Progress is made on one console, only to have a new one come out with new challenges for disabled gamers.
Hinn, who once worked as an intern at Microsoft, sees progress among independent developers but says the larger console manufacturers have lagged behind.
``Microsoft had not done very much which is disappointing ... because they have done a lot with accessibility with regards to their operating systems and other programs but when it comes to gaming not so much. And the same with Sony and Nintendo, although I think Nintendo has more of an understanding, especially games for the elderly with games like Brain Age, etc.''
Each small victory is savoured by Hinn, whose passion shines through.
``I've always been an advocate of social justice and that's why I'm involved in a lot of programs that help foster women in the game industry and women in technology,'' she explained.

``So yeah. the pay's not so great but it feels worthy, for me it's the right choice.
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For more information, visit:
_ www.igda.org/accessibility <http://www.igda.org/accessibility>
_ www.gameaccessibility.com <http://www.gameaccessibility.com>
_ www.deafgamers.com <http://www.deafgamers.com>
_ www.audiogames.net <http://www.audiogames.net>

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