[games_access] fwd: touch screen games
AudioGames.net
richard at audiogames.net
Thu May 31 20:16:55 EDT 2007
Oops... didn't look at your blog yet when I posted this ;)
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From: "AudioGames.net" <richard at audiogames.net>
To: "IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List" <games_access at igda.org>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: [games_access] fwd: touch screen games
> Oh... and one second ago found this one - not a game, but interesting
> indeed:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/surface/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AudioGames.net" <richard at audiogames.net>
> To: "IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List" <games_access at igda.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [games_access] fwd: touch screen games
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> (Lynn, you are also on this list, right?)
>>
>> "I'm wondering if you know of anyone that is developing games for use on
>> interactive touch-screens or tables. "
>>
>> The HKU did several projects like that. Here are some of the ones that
>> came into mind first:
>>
>> Apart-Spel:
>> http://www.apart-spel.nl/
>> http://kmt.hku.nl/~xchange/magazijn03/09_03.html (dutch HKU link)
>>
>> Entertable/Entertaible games (HKU for Philips):
>> http://www.research.philips.com/initiatives/entertaible/index.html
>> http://kmt.hku.nl/~xchange/projecten/projmarkt2006/entertable.html (only
>> page I could find at HKU - only dutch, nothing much)
>> http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ces/entertaible-lcdbased-board-gaming-from-philips-146788.php
>> (with pics of the HKU game)
>>
>> Verhalentafel ("storytable" - not to be confused with Storytable(c) from
>> The Waag Society):
>> http://kmt.hku.nl/~xchange/projecten/verhalentafel/verhalentafel.html
>> (only dutch)
>>
>> Something like that or... ?
>>
>> Greets,
>>
>> Ries
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "d. michelle hinn" <hinn at uiuc.edu>
>> To: <games_access at igda.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:22 PM
>> Subject: [games_access] fwd: touch screen games
>>
>>
>>> Forwarding from Lynn to the Women in Game Dev list, as I think a few
>>> might have some ideas here too.
>>>
>>> Indeed...America's Army game...I wish they'd involved more psychologists
>>> to help prep for the possibility of PTSD while they recruited soldiers.
>>> I can't even begin to imagine the psychological toll on some. Part of me
>>> wonders if games might not further traumatize but with the proper psych
>>> help it could be used as a desensitization tool. I just wish we lived in
>>> a world where such trauma didn't have to exist...
>>>
>>> Michelle
>>>
>>>>From: "Lynn Marentette" <lynnvm at carolina.rr.com>
>>>>To: <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:49:25 -0400
>>>>Organization: lynnmarentette
>>>>Thread-index: Acei9WIbYKpPwCutRL+kLSMCps/DqwAmv4Tg
>>>>Subject: Re: [women_dev] women_dev Digest, Vol 32, Issue 50
>>>>X-BeenThere: women_dev at igda.org
>>>>Reply-To: lynnvm at carolina.rr.com,
>>>> women in game development forum <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>>I'm wondering if you know of anyone that is developing games for use on
>>>>interactive touch-screens or tables.
>>>>I recently learned about Microsoft Research about "Surface Computing"
>>>>and
>>>>posted a demo from CNET/YouTube on one of my blogs at
>>>>http://interactivemultimediatechnology.blogspot.com.
>>>>
>>>>If you scroll down on my blog, you'll see some video demos of what I
>>>>worked
>>>>on for my projects last semester in my Human-Computer Interaction and
>>>>Ubiquitous Computing classes. The demos are on a wall-mounted touch
>>>>screen,
>>>>since I couldn't get my hands on a touch-table. The applications aren't
>>>>games, but could be used as the basis for educational games. Since I'm
>>>>a
>>>>school psychologist, I'd like to develop educational/edutainment games
>>>>for
>>>>interactive surfaces, especially for "at-risk" students and students who
>>>>have special needs, including those with autism spectrum disorders.
>>>>
>>>>I also think that therapeutic games designed for interactive
>>>>touch-tables
>>>>would be an effective, relatively inexpensive way to assist young people
>>>>coming back from Iraq who have PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) and
>>>>those who have TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury).
>>>>
>>>>Most of the young people in Iraq were gamers before they enlisted. Some
>>>>were
>>>>hooked into dreams of the military life through games such as "America's
>>>>Army". Why not use games to support our troops to help their
>>>>transition
>>>>back home?
>>>>
>>>>Please let me know what you think.
>>>>
>>>>Lynn Marentette
>>>>
>>>>TechPsych
>>>>Interactive Multimedia Technology
>>>>
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>>>> 1. Has anyone seen this? (Tamir Nadav)
>>>> 2. Re: Has anyone seen this? (Glyn Heatley)
>>>> 3. Re: Has anyone seen this? (Jane Pinckard)
>>>> 4. Re: Has anyone seen this? (Nancy Berman)
>>>> 5. Re: Has anyone seen this? (Glyn Heatley)
>>>> 6. Re: Has anyone seen this? (Daisy Pilbrow)
>>>> 7. Sexy64 - Male Gamer group (Theresa)
>>>> 8. Re: Sexy64 - Male Gamer group (Nancy Berman)
>>>> 9. Re: Sexy64 - Male Gamer group (Aery)
>>>> 10. Re: Sexy64 - Male Gamer group (Danielle Vanderlip)
>>>> 11. Re: Sexy64 - Male Gamer group (Aery)
>>>> 12. Re: Sexy64 - Male Gamer group (wendeth at wendydespain.com)
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>Message: 1
>>>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:27:30 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>>>>From: Tamir Nadav <theaquaticjew at gmail.com>
>>>>Subject: [women_dev] Has anyone seen this?
>>>>To: "women in game development forum" <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>Message-ID: <465D97E2.000025.00516 at BARAD-DUR>
>>>>Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>>>>http://www.codemasters.com/dirtydancing/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It just seems... odd... I don't know what to think about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----------
>>>>
>>>>The Aquatic Jew... for JUSTICE!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>- Tamir Nadav
>>>>
>>>>The Aquatic Jew
>>>>
>>>>619.985.1054
>>>>
>>>>Tamir.Nadav at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>Message: 2
>>>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 11:33:35 -0400
>>>>From: "Glyn Heatley" <glyn.heatley at gmail.com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [women_dev] Has anyone seen this?
>>>>To: "women in game development forum" <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>Message-ID:
>>>> <871e1ded0705300833p702698c7yc9b9c7ea857378ea at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>>
>>>>In Canada at least they are milking this IP for all it is worth. I think
>>>>that it is a 20th anniversary or something, but I keep seeing DVD
>>>>releases,
>>>>etc on TV.
>>>>
>>>>On 5/30/07, Tamir Nadav <theaquaticjew at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.codemasters.com/dirtydancing/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It just seems... odd... I don't know what to think about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------
>>>>>
>>>>> The Aquatic Jew... for JUSTICE!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Tamir Nadav
>>>>>
>>>>> The Aquatic Jew
>>>>>
>>>>> 619.985.1054
>>>>>
>>>>> Tamir.Nadav at gmail.com
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>regards,
>>>>
>>>>Glyn Heatley
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>>>>Message: 3
>>>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 09:34:02 -0700
>>>>From: "Jane Pinckard" <miyukijane at gmail.com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [women_dev] Has anyone seen this?
>>>>To: "women in game development forum" <women_dev at igda.org>
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>>>>wow. but how can you go wrong with The Swayze?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
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>>>>www.gamegirladvance.com
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>>>>Message: 4
>>>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 09:54:52 -0700
>>>>From: "Nancy Berman" <nancy at deryabar.net>
>>>>Subject: Re: [women_dev] Has anyone seen this?
>>>>To: "women in game development forum" <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>Message-ID: <00b701c7a2db$3e327460$6700a8c0 at Deryabar>
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>>http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/05/30
>>>>
>>>>Nancy
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Jane Pinckard
>>>> To: women in game development forum
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:34 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [women_dev] Has anyone seen this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> wow. but how can you go wrong with The Swayze?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> jane pinckard
>>>> www.gamegirladvance.com
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>Message: 5
>>>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 13:13:38 -0400
>>>>From: "Glyn Heatley" <glyn.heatley at gmail.com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [women_dev] Has anyone seen this?
>>>>To: "women in game development forum" <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>Message-ID:
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>>>>Ummm. Male, straight, no interest in El Swayze at all. After all he is
>>>>no De
>>>>Niro or McKellern with his acting ability.
>>>>
>>>>@ Nancy. Now I'll have nightmares. ;)
>>>>
>>>>On 5/30/07, Jane Pinckard <miyukijane at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>>> wow. but how can you go wrong with The Swayze?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> jane pinckard
>>>>> www.gamegirladvance.com
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>>>>
>>>>Glyn Heatley
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>>>>Message: 6
>>>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 13:19:21 -0400
>>>>From: "Daisy Pilbrow" <daisy.pilbrow at gmail.com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [women_dev] Has anyone seen this?
>>>>To: "women in game development forum" <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>Message-ID:
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>>>>"but how can you go wrong with The Swayze?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh, I don't know... I imagine a CGI Swayze falling prey to the Uncanny
>>>>Valley theory could be pretty horrifying (remember "The Polar Express" -
>>>>I
>>>>couldn't look at Tom Hanks for months after that one).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Daisy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 5/30/07, Jane Pinckard <miyukijane at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> wow. but how can you go wrong with The Swayze?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> jane pinckard
>>>>> www.gamegirladvance.com
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>Message: 7
>>>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:04:36 -0700
>>>>From: Theresa <talbarran at gmail.com>
>>>>Subject: [women_dev] Sexy64 - Male Gamer group
>>>>To: "women in game development forum" <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>Message-ID:
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>>>>I'm sure some of you have already seen this, but Mega64 has taken on the
>>>>Frag Dolls/PMS Clan/etc/etc with their latest video:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.mega64.com/
>>>>
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>>>>Message: 8
>>>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:23:10 -0700
>>>>From: "Nancy Berman" <nancy at deryabar.net>
>>>>Subject: Re: [women_dev] Sexy64 - Male Gamer group
>>>>To: "women in game development forum" <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>Message-ID: <010701c7a2ef$f5c30270$6700a8c0 at Deryabar>
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>>Words fail me.
>>>>
>>>>Nancy
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Theresa
>>>> To: women in game development forum
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:04 PM
>>>> Subject: [women_dev] Sexy64 - Male Gamer group
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure some of you have already seen this, but Mega64 has taken on
>>>> the
>>>>Frag Dolls/PMS Clan/etc/etc with their latest video:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mega64.com/
>>>>
>>>> - Theresa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>Message: 9
>>>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 14:55:03 -0500
>>>>From: Aery <aerynea at gmail.com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [women_dev] Sexy64 - Male Gamer group
>>>>To: "women in game development forum" <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>Message-ID:
>>>> <fdb4b7700705301255n5e17bebdv49b07374bcc7d497 at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>>I think I am horrified!
>>>>
>>>>On 5/30/07, Nancy Berman <nancy at deryabar.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Words fail me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nancy
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> *From:* Theresa <talbarran at gmail.com>
>>>>> *To:* women in game development forum <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:04 PM
>>>> > *Subject:* [women_dev] Sexy64 - Male Gamer group
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure some of you have already seen this, but Mega64 has taken on
>>>>> the
>>>>> Frag Dolls/PMS Clan/etc/etc with their latest video:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.mega64.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> - Theresa
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>Message: 10
>>>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:56:47 -0700
>>>>From: "Danielle Vanderlip" <sachant at gmail.com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [women_dev] Sexy64 - Male Gamer group
>>>>To: "women in game development forum" <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>Message-ID:
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>>>>I was eating lunch when I watched that. My appetite is gone.
>>>>
>>>>On 5/30/07, Theresa <talbarran at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure some of you have already seen this, but Mega64 has taken on
>>>>> the
>>>>> Frag Dolls/PMS Clan/etc/etc with their latest video:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.mega64.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> - Theresa
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> women_dev mailing list
>>>>> women_dev at igda.org
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>Message: 11
>>>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 14:59:23 -0500
>>>>From: Aery <aerynea at gmail.com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [women_dev] Sexy64 - Male Gamer group
>>>>To: "women in game development forum" <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>Message-ID:
>>>> <fdb4b7700705301259l3433b4feie435834ec1f26378 at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
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>>>>I can't believe I waited like 8 minutes for it to buffer!
>>>>
>>>>On 5/30/07, Danielle Vanderlip <sachant at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was eating lunch when I watched that. My appetite is gone.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/30/07, Theresa <talbarran at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > I'm sure some of you have already seen this, but Mega64 has taken
>>>>> on the
>>>>> > Frag Dolls/PMS Clan/etc/etc with their latest video:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://www.mega64.com/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > - Theresa
>>>>> >
>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > women_dev mailing list
>>>>> > women_dev at igda.org
>>>>> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/women_dev
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Danielle Vanderlip
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>Message: 12
>>>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 13:01:08 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>From: wendeth at wendydespain.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [women_dev] Sexy64 - Male Gamer group
>>>>To: "women in game development forum" <women_dev at igda.org>
>>>>Message-ID:
>>>> <3117.69.144.84.21.1180555268.squirrel at webmail.wendydespain.com>
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>
>>>>imho, it was awesome.
>>>>
>>>>WD
>>>>
>>>>> I can't believe I waited like 8 minutes for it to buffer!
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/30/07, Danielle Vanderlip <sachant at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was eating lunch when I watched that. My appetite is gone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/30/07, Theresa <talbarran at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I'm sure some of you have already seen this, but Mega64 has taken
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> > Frag Dolls/PMS Clan/etc/etc with their latest video:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://www.mega64.com/
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > - Theresa
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>> > women_dev mailing list
>>>>>> > women_dev at igda.org
>>>>>> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/women_dev
>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Danielle Vanderlip
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
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