[games_access] Affordability of Game Accessibility

[Barrie Ellis]

Price is of course a fundamental access issue, that goes across the board. 
And yes, disabled people tend to get whacked price wise linked to a variety 
of things. Sometimes economies of scale, sometimes as they require far more 
complicated equipment and so on. Roll on the single platform, which you can 
use a wide range of controllers tailored to your own abilities and games 
that can be adjusted broadly too.

Barrie

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From: <blazeeagle at suddenlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:35 PM
To: <games_access at igda.org>
Subject: [games_access] Affordability of Game Accessibility

> Well, What about disabled gamers on a limited or even a fixed income who 
> can't afford the game accessibility equipment required to play? That seems 
> like an valid accessibility concern. Even if someone with limited funds 
> has a game console or PC with a game or two, It might have been a gift & 
> not acquired via ones own personal funds.
>
> My intention isn't to seem miserly but this aspect, In my experience at 
> least, Can be ignored or brushed aside.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> BlazeEagle
>
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>   1. Re: [SPAM 4]  Game Accessibility and Hardware (Thomas Westin)
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>   3. Re: games_access Digest, Vol 94, Issue 2 (Sandra Uhling)
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> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 17:03:12 +0100
> From: Thomas Westin <thomasw at dsv.su.se>
> Subject: Re: [games_access] [SPAM 4]  Game Accessibility and Hardware
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> the term accessibility is used in many contexts and means different 
> things, so it is only a matter of which definition you use
>
> using the definition defined by the SIG in the 2004 white paper:
> Game Accessibility can be defined as the ability to play a game even when 
> functioning under limiting conditions. Limiting conditions can be 
> functional limitations, or disabilities ? such as blindness, deafness, or 
> mobility limitations.
>
> the text says "Limiting conditions can be..." which does not exclude other 
> factors than disabilities - such as things in the environment e.g. gray 
> colors, small display etc.
>
> Mvh / Best regards
> Thomas Westin
> Stockholm University :: dsv.su.se :: +46 73-707 86 86
>
> On 5Dec 2011, at 1:00 PM, Sandra Uhling wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would like to know your thoughts about this:
>> Is this Game Accessibility, too?
>>
>>
>> * offline modus needs internet connection
>> * game needs to be registered you need an account
>>
>> * display can only show gray colors
>> * display is very small
>> * hardware has only a small amount of buttons
>>
>>
>> I am not sure, but did we already say that money is not part of
>> Game Accessibility? That is another area, but not Game Accessibility.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sandra
>>
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> From: <blazeeagle at suddenlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [games_access] games_access Digest, Vol 94, Issue 2
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> It?s not necessarily a accessibility issue per se but if a disabled person
> wants to play offline & if their disability is severe enough, The gamer 
> must
> have assistance with typing in their log in credentials. Because unless 
> I?m
> mistaken, some games even in single player, off line mode, still require
> logging in with their credentials.
>
> A display that can only show gray colors can impact accessibility if
> game-play requires recognition of colors to accomplish game objectives. 
> So,
> This is definitely an accessibility issue. In addition to color objective
> indicators, Objectives could have text indicators.
>
> A small display can definitely affect gamers with vision impairments. If a
> display is too small, glasses or even a magnification overlay, won?t help
> much if at all.
>
> A small amount of buttons can definitely affect gamers with certain
> disabilities. Also, Button positions can affect game accessibility for 
> those
> with impaired hand/finger dexterity and/or impaired coordination.
> Reconfigurable button positions would be quite beneficial.
>
> Money IS a part of game accessibility because if a gamer can?t afford
> accessible controllers and/or other  accessibility equipment, They 
> obviously
> can?t game!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> BlazeEagle
>
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> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:00:41 +0100
> From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de>
> Subject: [games_access] Game Accessibility and Hardware
> To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
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> Hello,
>
> I would like to know your thoughts about this:
> Is this Game Accessibility, too?
>
>
> * offline modus needs internet connection
> * game needs to be registered you need an account
>
> * display can only show gray colors
> * display is very small
> * hardware has only a small amount of buttons
>
>
> I am not sure, but did we already say that money is not part of
> Game Accessibility? That is another area, but not Game Accessibility.
>
> Best regards,
> Sandra
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 12:41:43 +0100
> From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de>
> Subject: Re: [games_access] games_access Digest, Vol 94, Issue 2
> To: <blazeeagle at suddenlink.net>, "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG
> Mailing List'" <games_access at igda.org>
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> Hello Blazeeagle,
>
> thank you very much.
>
> Anno 2070 needs in single offline mode an internet connection.
> The gamer has also to create a profile. (Screenreader accessible?)
>
> Money: I thought about a social barrier:
> A family with healthy kids does not have money to buy a game.
> This is not part of Accessibility I would say.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Sandra
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] 
> Im Auftrag von blazeeagle at suddenlink.net
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Dezember 2011 12:25
> An: games_access at igda.org
> Betreff: Re: [games_access] games_access Digest, Vol 94, Issue 2
>
> It?s not necessarily a accessibility issue per se but if a disabled person
> wants to play offline & if their disability is severe enough, The gamer 
> must
> have assistance with typing in their log in credentials. Because unless 
> I?m
> mistaken, some games even in single player, off line mode, still require
> logging in with their credentials.
>
> A display that can only show gray colors can impact accessibility if
> game-play requires recognition of colors to accomplish game objectives. 
> So,
> This is definitely an accessibility issue. In addition to color objective
> indicators, Objectives could have text indicators.
>
> A small display can definitely affect gamers with vision impairments. If a
> display is too small, glasses or even a magnification overlay, won?t help
> much if at all.
>
> A small amount of buttons can definitely affect gamers with certain
> disabilities. Also, Button positions can affect game accessibility for 
> those
> with impaired hand/finger dexterity and/or impaired coordination.
> Reconfigurable button positions would be quite beneficial.
>
> Money IS a part of game accessibility because if a gamer can?t afford
> accessible controllers and/or other  accessibility equipment, They 
> obviously
> can?t game!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> BlazeEagle
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: games_access-request at igda.org
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 10:00 AM
> To: games_access at igda.org
> Subject: games_access Digest, Vol 94, Issue 2
>
> Send games_access mailing list submissions to
> games_access at igda.org
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> You can reach the person managing the list at
> games_access-owner at igda.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of games_access digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Game Accessibility and Hardware (Sandra Uhling)
>
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:00:41 +0100
> From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de>
> Subject: [games_access] Game Accessibility and Hardware
> To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'"
> <games_access at igda.org>
> Message-ID: <000001ccb345$8363e8a0$8a2bb9e0$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know your thoughts about this:
> Is this Game Accessibility, too?
>
>
> * offline modus needs internet connection
> * game needs to be registered you need an account
>
> * display can only show gray colors
> * display is very small
> * hardware has only a small amount of buttons
>
>
> I am not sure, but did we already say that money is not part of
> Game Accessibility? That is another area, but not Game Accessibility.
>
> Best regards,
> Sandra
>
>
>
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