[games_access] US Kills UN CRPD.... :( (Steve Spohn)

[Sandra Uhling]

Hi,

Unfortunately it does not help much to have the CRPD.
The truth is not changed .... You can see it in Germany .....

Very very bad .... only few changes, .....

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] Im
Auftrag von Michelle Hinn
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Dezember 2012 18:32
An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
Betreff: Re: [games_access] US Kills UN CRPD.... :( (Steve Spohn)

Yes, there are a LOT of delusional people out there about the state of the
US ADA, which BADLY needs revisiting. UN CRPD may have been initially
influenced on the ADA (as well as other countries disability laws)...but
then it took things WAY beyond it. So it's great to know that we will now
OFFICIALLY be one of the worst countries in the world for disability rights.
Way to go, senate...way to go...

Michelle

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Sandra Uhling <sandra_uhling at web.de> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am sorry, but the level of the USA is very low.
> The UN CRPD is much much much much much higher!
>
> Example: Education Games
> USA: give the kid an alternative, e.g. a book UN CRPD: make the game 
> accessible as possible
>
> Best regards,
> Sandra
>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org 
>> [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
> Im
>> Auftrag von Ian Hamilton
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Dezember 2012 10:01
>> An: games_access at igda.org
>> Betreff: Re: [games_access] US Kills UN CRPD.... :( (Steve Spohn)
>>
>>
>> The entire thing was a pretty poor show from both sides. The 
>> supporters
> based
>> their case on patriotic flag waving, making shameful false claims 
>> about
> the US
>> leading the way, already being compliant, and that ratification was 
>> about getting other countries to implement US laws.. making easy 
>> pickings for
> the
>> opposition, who were able to use the holes in the case for together 
>> with things like home schooling as a smokescreen for the real reason 
>> for opposition.
>>
>> Have a watch of the Santorum and co. press conference, they stated 
>> very clearly that things like home schooling are just minor details, 
>> and even
> if
>> those widely publicised objections were amended they still would do
> everything
>> they could to block ratification, the reason (stated several times) 
>> being
> that
>> they don't want ANY Americans to have any kind of social or economic
> rights,
>> as that's "a march towards Soviet block socialism".
>>
>> Fair point. Despite what the supporters (inc. DOJ) claimed, 
>> ratification
> would
>> indeed require changes to the law, replacing the ADA (now outdated
> compared to
>> UNCRPD based legislation, like the UK's recent Equalities Act) with
> something
>> that included social and economic rights (UNCRPD states rights to 
>> equal
> access
>> to employment opportunities, recreation, leisure and inclusion in
> society).
>>
>> So yes, fair point by the opposition.. that is, so long as you think 
>> that discrimination against people with disabilities in these areas 
>> is fine,
> and
>> all that matters is the current access to basic public/government
> services.
>>
>> As for it being a US led initiative to implement US laws overseas, 
>> here's
> the
>> reality:
>>
>> http://www.un.org/disabilities/documents/maps/enablemap.jpg
>>
>>
>> It's not the last time that the UNCRPD will be raised in the US.
> Considering
>> it is meant to be a non-partisan issue hopefully next time it'll be 
>> able
> to
>> get through thanks to both sides debating it based on fact rather 
>> than ideology, and hopefully next time it won't be raised during a 
>> lame duck session too, that hardly helped.
>>
>> Hopefully a situation like the UN convention on the rights of the 
>> child
> can be
>> avoided. Here's the global state of ratification for that:
>>
>>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Convention_on_the_R
> ights_
> of
>> _the_Child.svg
>>
>>
>> Only three countries in the world haven't ratified. South Sudan 
>> because
> the
>> country has only just been created. Somalia as they haven't had a 
>> proper government in place for long enough to implement, but there's 
>> wide public support and they are moving towards ratification.
>>
>>
>> And then the USA, because the convention mentions social and economic
> rights,
>> staunchly opposed by conservative senators, which they argued against
> using
>> home schooling choice as a cover. Sound familiar?
>>
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> >
>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 23:09:02 -0500
>> > From: Michelle Hinn <michellehinn at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: [games_access] US Kills UN CRPD.... :(
>> > To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List 
>> > <games_access at igda.org>
>> > Message-ID:
>> > <CA+bf7W7XjMdYYZ0b6TfQZp1TLPL_fQOcN0AswTRPChbZB1+SyA at mail.gmail.com
>> > >
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>> >
>> > Well if you haven't heard this by now, here's what happened with 
>> > CRPD as far as US involvement...
>> >
>> > http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/12/04/15675104-senate-gop-ki
>> > lls
>> > -disabilities-treaty
>> >
>> > Sigh...
>> >
>> > Michelle
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 00:25:41 -0500
>> > From: Steve Spohn <steve at ablegamers.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [games_access] US Kills UN CRPD.... :(
>> > To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List 
>> > <games_access at igda.org>
>> > Message-ID:
>> > <CABrM+MXw091-ugy+_i-fJfWLWB2tTLTX1a21TO0Hp-dAsA85sg at mail.gmail.com
>> > >
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>> >
>> > Thanks, Republicans! jerks
>> >
>>
>
>
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