[games_access] US Kills UN CRPD.... :( (Steve Spohn)

Wed Dec 5 17:57:56 EST 2012

True. But we carry on.

From: Michelle Hinn 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:39 PM
To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [games_access] US Kills UN CRPD.... :( (Steve Spohn)

Yeah unless each country commits to adopting the ideas in their own
countries...in the end, signing it doesn't do much good. But we have a
lot of people in the US who think that anything to do with the UN will
turn the country into a "socialist nightmare" even if it can't do
anything to directly change anything so they won't even commit to the
idea of a world that is more accessible...

Sad...so much to fight for still...so much...

Michelle

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Sandra Uhling <sandra_uhling at web.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Unfortunately it does not help much to have the CRPD.
> The truth is not changed .... You can see it in Germany .....
>
> Very very bad .... only few changes, .....
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org] Im
> Auftrag von Michelle Hinn
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Dezember 2012 18:32
> An: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
> Betreff: Re: [games_access] US Kills UN CRPD.... :( (Steve Spohn)
>
> Yes, there are a LOT of delusional people out there about the state of the
> US ADA, which BADLY needs revisiting. UN CRPD may have been initially
> influenced on the ADA (as well as other countries disability laws)...but
> then it took things WAY beyond it. So it's great to know that we will now
> OFFICIALLY be one of the worst countries in the world for disability rights.
> Way to go, senate...way to go...
>
> Michelle
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Sandra Uhling <sandra_uhling at web.de> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I am sorry, but the level of the USA is very low.
>> The UN CRPD is much much much much much higher!
>>
>> Example: Education Games
>> USA: give the kid an alternative, e.g. a book UN CRPD: make the game
>> accessible as possible
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sandra
>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: games_access-bounces at igda.org
>>> [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
>> Im
>>> Auftrag von Ian Hamilton
>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Dezember 2012 10:01
>>> An: games_access at igda.org
>>> Betreff: Re: [games_access] US Kills UN CRPD.... :( (Steve Spohn)
>>>
>>>
>>> The entire thing was a pretty poor show from both sides. The
>>> supporters
>> based
>>> their case on patriotic flag waving, making shameful false claims
>>> about
>> the US
>>> leading the way, already being compliant, and that ratification was
>>> about getting other countries to implement US laws.. making easy
>>> pickings for
>> the
>>> opposition, who were able to use the holes in the case for together
>>> with things like home schooling as a smokescreen for the real reason
>>> for opposition.
>>>
>>> Have a watch of the Santorum and co. press conference, they stated
>>> very clearly that things like home schooling are just minor details,
>>> and even
>> if
>>> those widely publicised objections were amended they still would do
>> everything
>>> they could to block ratification, the reason (stated several times)
>>> being
>> that
>>> they don't want ANY Americans to have any kind of social or economic
>> rights,
>>> as that's "a march towards Soviet block socialism".
>>>
>>> Fair point. Despite what the supporters (inc. DOJ) claimed,
>>> ratification
>> would
>>> indeed require changes to the law, replacing the ADA (now outdated
>> compared to
>>> UNCRPD based legislation, like the UK's recent Equalities Act) with
>> something
>>> that included social and economic rights (UNCRPD states rights to
>>> equal
>> access
>>> to employment opportunities, recreation, leisure and inclusion in
>> society).
>>>
>>> So yes, fair point by the opposition.. that is, so long as you think
>>> that discrimination against people with disabilities in these areas
>>> is fine,
>> and
>>> all that matters is the current access to basic public/government
>> services.
>>>
>>> As for it being a US led initiative to implement US laws overseas,
>>> here's
>> the
>>> reality:
>>>
>>> http://www.un.org/disabilities/documents/maps/enablemap.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> It's not the last time that the UNCRPD will be raised in the US.
>> Considering
>>> it is meant to be a non-partisan issue hopefully next time it'll be
>>> able
>> to
>>> get through thanks to both sides debating it based on fact rather
>>> than ideology, and hopefully next time it won't be raised during a
>>> lame duck session too, that hardly helped.
>>>
>>> Hopefully a situation like the UN convention on the rights of the
>>> child
>> can be
>>> avoided. Here's the global state of ratification for that:
>>>
>>>
>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Convention_on_the_R
>> ights_
>> of
>>> _the_Child.svg
>>>
>>>
>>> Only three countries in the world haven't ratified. South Sudan
>>> because
>> the
>>> country has only just been created. Somalia as they haven't had a
>>> proper government in place for long enough to implement, but there's
>>> wide public support and they are moving towards ratification.
>>>
>>>
>>> And then the USA, because the convention mentions social and economic
>> rights,
>>> staunchly opposed by conservative senators, which they argued against
>> using
>>> home schooling choice as a cover. Sound familiar?
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Message: 2
>>> > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 23:09:02 -0500
>>> > From: Michelle Hinn <michellehinn at gmail.com>
>>> > Subject: [games_access] US Kills UN CRPD.... :(
>>> > To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>>> > <games_access at igda.org>
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> > <CA+bf7W7XjMdYYZ0b6TfQZp1TLPL_fQOcN0AswTRPChbZB1+SyA at mail.gmail.com
>>> > >
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>>> >
>>> > Well if you haven't heard this by now, here's what happened with
>>> > CRPD as far as US involvement...
>>> >
>>> > http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/12/04/15675104-senate-gop-ki
>>> > lls
>>> > -disabilities-treaty
>>> >
>>> > Sigh...
>>> >
>>> > Michelle
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Message: 3
>>> > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 00:25:41 -0500
>>> > From: Steve Spohn <steve at ablegamers.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [games_access] US Kills UN CRPD.... :(
>>> > To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
>>> > <games_access at igda.org>
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> > <CABrM+MXw091-ugy+_i-fJfWLWB2tTLTX1a21TO0Hp-dAsA85sg at mail.gmail.com
>>> > >
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> >
>>> > Thanks, Republicans! jerks
>>> >
>>>
>>
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