[games_access] Whinge and whine

[Steve Spohn]

I want to thank all those who saw the forest through the trees on the
subject.

To Barrie: You and I have had many discussions about SIG, AG and SE - I
truly believe if you wanted to ask about that one second line in an overall
video you would have e-mailed me personally and not blasted it to the sig.
it's difficult for me to believe that you were not just stirring the pot.

Here's the thing. Nine months ago SpecialEffect and ablegamers were going to
collaborate on exactly what you are talking about. A set of guidelines that
would be on a third-party neutral website that would send people to both of
our websites and at the same time allow us to point developers to a neutral
ground explaining the W3C accessibility type standards. We were going to
design this and then bring it to sig for suggestions and then post it for
the world to see. Nine months later, the ball is still in your court and we
are still waiting for you to get back to Mark on this project.

As far as I understand, in the meantime, you have started up your own
website to do what ablegamers is already doing, review mainstream games. So
once again, instead of collaborating, we will be at odds.

Why can everyone not work together towards the same goal? If we would all
take a single task in the movement we would be so much stronger. To quote
the great Roman philosophy "We are not a single clenched fist. We are but
fingers wiggling free without being set to single purpose."

Set mind to single purpose!

Steve Spohn
Editor-In-Chief
The AbleGamers Foundation

www.ablegamers.com - community site
www.ablegamers.org - foundation website
www.gameaccessibility.org - learn the basics of game accessibility

Skype ID Steve_Spohn


-----Original Message-----
From: games_access-bounces at igda.org [mailto:games_access-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Barrie Ellis
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:41 PM
To: IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [games_access] Whinge and whine

Peace is a good thing. I was likely out of order to bring it up, and only
showing my pettiness. Sorry.

I would love to see the disparate organisations find something to come
together with, that we can all back... Maybe some kind of W3C Game
Accessibility guidelines. Maybe someone independent could come up with the
bare bones, then bring in AbleGamers, IGDA GASIG, SpecialEffect and all the
others with an interest to flesh it out and all put our stamp on it? That I
would love to see very much. That might also show recognition for one
another all round.

Barrie




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From: "Sandra Uhling" <sandra_uhling at web.de>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 5:11 PM
To: "'IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List'" <games_access at igda.org>
Subject: Re: [games_access] Whinge and whine

> Hello,
>
> peace?
>
> Everyone is doing what they can. I personally do not like this 
> attitude from both sides.
> Both sides are right and wrong. The wrong part is because there are 
> emotion and this topic is a really hard hard hard work. And another 
> reason is that we sometimes miss open minds.
> So why don't we work together?
>
> Maybe we should look at ourselves and look what we can change so we 
> can work together?
>
> This situation besides the SIG and AG is one of the reason I do not 
> work with this SIG, like I would like to do. To be honest I do not see 
> any team work, including letting the members participate in this SIG.
> (The Top Ten Version two was made without participation of the 
> members!)
>
> So I started to work on my one stuff long time ago. I do not have the 
> feeling that new point of views are accepted. So I have my own 
> philosophy, sent my own paper to the UN and created my own project 
> concept without the SIG.
>
> But I do not like this ...
>
> Maybe we should look how we can make this SIG working again as a team 
> (and including all members) and hopefully in a partnership with the 
> AG?
>
> I would love to see something like this: Look there is a video about 
> AG, great!
> (And maybe the AG does mention this SIG in the Video?)
>
> Best regards,
> Sandra
>
>
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