[CIS-PAGID] Puzzling Patient #1

Church, Joseph JChurch at chla.usc.edu
Thu May 3 21:10:31 EDT 2012


Thank you, Terry. We use whole blood PCR for EBV. The patient is indeed a puzzle. JC

From: pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org [mailto:pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org] On Behalf Of Harville, Terry O
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 1:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [CIS-PAGID] Puzzling Patient #1

Joe,

The PCR may be explained depending on whether the lab uses "plasma" or "whole blood". PCR of the plasma can be negative, if there is not active viral replication and release of viral particles. Whereas, whole blood should pick up latent virus in circulating B lymphocytes.

The sero-conversion is a different issue, that I cannot fully explain.

I have seen necrotizing cervical adenitis (Kikuchi-like) with strong EBER staining, yet no circulating evidence of EBV. I cannot remember for sure, but I think the VCA-IgG and EBNA were positive, as expected, and VCA-IgM and EA were negative. This was before routine PCR for EBV.

Terry Harville MD PhD
-Medical Director, Special Immunology Laboratory
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From: pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org [mailto:pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org] On Behalf Of Church, Joseph
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:48 PM
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Subject: [CIS-PAGID] Puzzling Patient #1

This 18yo girl had persistent anterior cervical adenitis complicating severe purulent tonsillitis. Throat culture was negative for bacterial pathogens. Routine serology for EBV and CMV were negative. There was no organomegaly or adenopathy other than that described.

Eventually she came to biopsy that showed necrotizing adenitis with strong histochemical staining for EBV. Histologic and histochemical features were not consistent with neoplasm.

EBV serology 1 month after the procedure showed only +EBV VCA IgM; 3 months after the procedure the serologic picture was the same.

Blood PCR for EBV was negative x2.

The following immune functions were normal:
T-, B-, NK cell numbers.
Ig levels
Antibody responses to Pneumovax
Mitogen and antigen-specific LPAs
CTL function (Cincinnati Children's Lab)
NK cell function (Cincinnati Cildren's Lab)
X-inactivation - random (looking for potential for XLP)

Have any of you seen 4+ EBV in a lymph node with negative VCA IgG and EBNA and negative blood EBV PCR?

What am I missing?

Joe Church
Children's Hospital Los Angeles

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