[sbe-eas] FCC Report and Order draft provides time to comply

Aaron Read readaaron at friedbagels.com
Thu Jul 25 10:45:27 EDT 2024


You are correct, Lowell.  But since when has that ever stopped state
legislators from deciding they can whatever they damn well please anyways?

Massachusetts, as I recall, briefly tried to make monitoring of the
national weather service mandatory.  Rhode Island's current State EAS Plan
(delivered only 19 years late!) actually DOES mandate monitoring of NWS.
Those are both no-no's under Part 11, I believe?, but they've done it
anyways.  (shrugs)  Which is quite annoying as none of the stations in the
southern part of the state can realistically receive the weather radio
broadcast from the tower WPRO-FM is on; nor any other NWS broadcasts in
adjacent states (they're way too distant for the terrain).

At least they don't require that we forward any of the NWS-provided
alerts.  That, as you note, is a *definite* no-no.   It's very frustrating
because I *know* the guys at RISP and RIEMA and they're good people, but
EAS is just way, way down their list of priorities.  They're much more
interested in WEA and the roadside message boards.   And to be fair, they
don't care much about EAS because all of the local broadcasters don't care
about EAS, either.  Several of them are actively hostile to EAS.

- Aaron


On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 11:14 PM Lowell Kiesow <lkiesow at knkx.org> wrote:

> I think you might be mistaken. FCC Part 11 does not give the states
> authority to make any alert codes mandatory.
>
> Lowell Kiesow
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> On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 8:00 PM Bob Reite <br at telcen.com> wrote:
>
>> The PA state plan requires the relay of any Warnings.   So during the
>> Summertime a lot of Severe Thunderstorm Warnings go out.  Watches are
>> optional and nobody I know sends those, it would be far too annoying.
>>
>> On 7/24/24 10:25 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
>> >
>> > The FCC (NAB, SBE, NCTA, etc) have no recent data about how many
>> > broadcasters, cable systems, IPTV, satellite operators actually forward
>> > any voluntary EAS codes.
>> >
>> > Amber alerts?  Tornado warnings?  Civil emergency?
>> >
>> > My limited monitoring of EAS in 4 major metro areas over the decades,
>> > other than the designated LP-1/LP-2 stations, almost none carried
>> > voluntary EAS codes. NPR/PBS and other non-commercial systems carry
>> more
>> > than commercial systems, but I doubt it reached 30% of the systems.
>> >
>> > It might vary by state and how active the SECC/State Broadcast
>> > Association is.
>> >
>> > More likely, it will lead to more late-night WEA cell phone alerts.
>> And
>> > consumers learning how to disable WEA alerts on their phones.
>> >
>> > On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, Lowell Kiesow wrote:
>> >> States can choose which of the non-mandatory, civil and weather alert
>> >> codes
>> >> to use, and which ones are not for use. And, broadcasters have the
>> >> choice of
>> >> which event codes to relay. That makes adding this new code a minor
>> >> thing.
>> >> The only mandatory event codes are EAN, NPT, RMT, and RWT.
>> >
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