[sbe-eas] WA: This is a test. happy Friday!

[Rob Dale]

Here's how it works in RAVE:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XabgN9RZhTzCtXc827gc3aQzP-nu126i/view?usp=sharing

The default is ALL ON. So you have to manually turn them off or...

Now I'm not a user interface developer, but if I was, I might make the default all OFF.

Rob

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Ah, so from these replies (thank you all) it is easier for a human to mistakenly send alerts to both the WEA ecosystem and the EAS ecosystem (by the vector of IPAWS) than I realized.  I thought those were usually two very different software interfaces but I'm understanding that not only aren't they very different...they're not even TWO software interfaces; it's all done in one program.  YIKES.  No wonder fuckups like this happen so often.


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On Sat, Aug 17, 2024 at 6:05 PM Rob Dale <rdale at skywatch.org<mailto:rdale at skywatch.org>> wrote:
Correct - a WEA can't "leak" into EAS.

But the monthly proficiency demonstration requires users to send a message to both the EAS and WEA channel on the test server.

To do that just requires the user to check the "WEA" box AND the "EAS" box.

If that's done in the real world, then bad things can happen :) Because as you noted some things that are pure tests in WEA are actual live messages (RMT) in EAS.

Rob


On Aug 17, 2024, at 5:58 PM, Aaron Read <readaaron at friedbagels.com<mailto:readaaron at friedbagels.com>> wrote:


I am very confused: WEA may use codes similar to what EAS uses, but I was under the impression they are NOT the same.  There's no possible way a test in WEA could end up on EAS (except through *significant* user error) because they're completely different systems, data flow & infrastructure...right?


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On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 11:00 PM Rob Dale <rdale at skywatch.org<mailto:rdale at skywatch.org>> wrote:
It was first sent at an RMT WEA Test which may mess up EAS but won’t go to cell phones (unless they turned on state/local tests.)

It was next sent as a DMO which I was under the impression never goes to cell phones?

Did one or both go as a live test to all?



Rob



On Aug 16, 2024, at 10:55 PM, Lowell Kiesow <lkiesow at knkx.org<mailto:lkiesow at knkx.org>> wrote:


It might be smarter to test with an event code such as RWT or DMO, so that no damage is done when released to the wild.

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On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 7:16 PM Sean Donelan <sean at donelan.com<mailto:sean at donelan.com>> wrote:

200166,EMD (WA) - Emergency Management Division (WMD),Washington Emergency
Management Division accidently transmitted a statewide test WEA Friday
evening.



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Welp. Shoot. As an emergency management agency, we regularly send test
alerts to ensure our employees are proficient and the test alert system
works. They’re normally sent in a “test” environment. Tonight an alert was
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