[sbe-eas] NWS forgetting the lessons of Hurricane Harvey (Houston 2017)

[Lowell Kiesow]

This is exactly why the NWS exists, and why the privatization of weather
warnings will fail completely when it gets tried. Public warning for
weather is damned if you do and damned if you don't.  No sane company would
ever take on that level of liability.

The local NWS meteorologists are great people who care deeply about their
mission. Unfortunately, they seem to get some poor directives from
headquarters. I imagine it's really hard to make one size fits all plans
for all of the scenarios they face across the whole country.

Lowell Kiesow
Chief Engineer
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On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 5:39 PM Hal Kneller <hkneller at earthlink.net> wrote:

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> *From:* sbe-eas <sbe-eas-bounces at sbe.org> on behalf of Aaron Read <
> readaaron at friedbagels.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2024 7:58:50 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [sbe-eas] NWS forgetting the lessons of Hurricane Harvey
> (Houston 2017)
>
> One thing you always count on from a govt agency is that they will NEVER
> EVER admit that they sent "too many" warnings.
>
> Sending too many warnings, and causing people to disable the alerts, will
> not result in the agency getting in trouble (or not much trouble)
> regardless of how few or how many fatalities there end up being.
>
> Sending too few warnings, however, all but guarantees the agency WILL get
> blamed for each and every death that occurs, no matter how tangential to
> the disaster the alert is about.
>
> Especially now when I'm positive Florida's governor will find some way to
> blame NOAA and/or FEMA just so he can score political points for his own
> reelection.
>
> This "cover your ass" mentality is hardly unique to government
> agencies...but I concede few seem to do it better.  It's a shame almost
> nobody with power  in DC cares to actually understand why that is and to
> try to fix it.
>
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> On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 7:01 PM Sean Donelan <sean at donelan.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> NWS is now up to 133 tornado warnings in a hurricane.  Milton hasn't even
>> made landfall yet.
>>
>> The graphic from NWS shows a lot of overlapping warning areas as the
>> outer
>> rainbands around Hurricane Milton spin through the atmosphere.
>>
>> https://x.com/NWSGSP/status/1844129342974009810
>>
>> Figuring out how to coordinate warning messages is still a challenge to
>> prevent incessent public alerting.
>>
>> Hurricanes have flash flooding, coastal flooding, regular flooding,
>> tornados, lightning and thunderstorms, high winds, storm surges. NWS
>> standard templates used to give conflicting public action statements
>> during the same weather event with overlapping alerts.
>>
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