[sbe-eas] NWS forgetting the lessons of Hurricane Harvey (Houston 2017)

[felucia at att.net]

 Just a small comment.
During the development of the EAS Rules in 1994, some NWS personnel thought that the new rules would include that Tornado Warnings would be mandatory under EAS just like EAN.  Obviously that could not happen.
Frank Lucia     On Thursday, October 10, 2024 at 02:11:18 PM EDT, Rob Dale <rdale at skywatch.org> wrote:  
 
 Good question! Since the hurricane warning was issued well before the tornadoes, that shouldn't have been confusing. The goal is not to send for every vortex, because as noted in Harvey there are a lot of quick spinups. And they repeated over the exact same communities many many times over 2-3 days.

These tornadoes were NOT quick spinups. And they did not repeat for more than a few hours let along a few days.

During yesterday's event I didn't see any flash flood warnings overlapping tornado warnings. In any event, during a flash flood warning in Florida you don't need to run for higher ground because 1) there is no higher ground and 2) the type of flash flooding they get doesn't wash homes away.

So stick with tornado/hurricane sheltering, which suggests people stay in an interior room.

Rob

> On Oct 10, 2024, at 2:04 PM, Sean Donelan <sean at donelan.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 170 tornado warnings in Florida
> 
> 19 confirmed tornadoes as of today (maybe 45 tornadoes reported)
> 
> 
> At what point do you ignore your phone buzzing in your pocket.  Is the goal to send an alert for every possible vortex during a hurricane, or focus attention on the most critical, hazard impact.
> 
> Hurricane warning action statement - evacuate area
> Tornado warning action statement - seek sturdy building
> Flash flood warning action - seek higher ground
> 
> Now send all the warnings with conflicting action statements in random order. Let the public figure it out what to do.
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