[SBE] Global Warming

[John Peterson]

Most leading scientists agree that global warming is a reality. But with
that said this isn't the place for me to post that....

Nice I read the SBE roundtable to get "Expert" analysis on Global warming.

Glad my delete button works...

John


on 5/4/08 11:44 AM, A9xw at cs.com at A9xw at cs.com wrote:


> In a message dated 5/3/2008 11:56:30 PM Central Daylight Time, br at telcen.com

> writes:

> 

> 

>> 

>> Global warming will tend to make weather more extreme,

> 

> Sorry, not true. HIgher winds cause white caps which lower ocean temperature

> because they reflect sunlight/heat, causing cooling. Storms are the release of

> heat into the atmosphere which dissipates into space because it does not

> reach the surface and blocks sun light from reacing the surface. Colder

> surface 

> temepratures reduce thermal risers that cause storms. It is a self leveling

> system. Thepast two years of very low major storms are the result of La Nina

> cooling the Pacific ocean that in turn reduces the global termperatures.  Both

> north and south temperate zones were significantly cooler and record low temps

> and 

> snow levels all over the northern hemisphere have been the result of La Nina.

> This is a normal long cycle. Sun spot level is also an indicator of warm or

> cold global temperatures. The long period of low sun spot activity coincided

> with the "mini ice age" that lasted 400 years and began to end in the late

> 1700's. A mellinium ago Greenland was Green, there were settlements with crops

> and 

> cattle (sheep, goats) that were destroyed by global cooling that froze the

> open lands under snow and ice. You can visit the relilcs/ruins of houses and

> other stone buildings there. Habitat would have also had to have trees and

> otgher 

> burnable vegitation on Greenland, nearly all of which is gone today.  So, what

> is the normal condition of Greenland?  Green and warm, or covered in ice?

> Both, its a long term climatic cycle unaffected by man.    We can't even

> predict 

> a tornado with any accuracy, never managed to destroy one, can make no dent

> in any hurricane, so what could we possible do to influence the entire globe

> other than reduce cow and sheep flatulance to repair the hole in the ozone

> over 

> antarctica that directly coincided with the increase in methane levels in New

> Zeland, Australia and Argintina.  Not a lot of CFC's from aerosol cans of

> which 95% were in the northern hemisphere. The amount of civilization and land

> below 50 degrees south  is miniscule vs above 50 degres north. Except for teh

> relativly narrow gap between the Antarctic penninsula and Tierra Del Fuego,

> there 

> is nothing to moderate the ocean currents and storms of the oceans that

> surround the south pole. In the northern hemisphere, the atlantic and Pacific

> oceans are blocked by large land masses, mountains and only small passages

> into the 

> arctic ocean, The moderates and reduces the oceanic effects.  Snow and ice

> accumulate on land much faster than on moving sea water, not to mention the

> lower freezing temperature of sea water vs fresh (non salty) water. Lastly,

> the 

> northern hemisphere is slowly riswing having shed a two mile think ice sheet

> of 

> the last ice age that lowered the entire continent by several hundred feet

> from the weight. That allows more run off of ground water and raises ocean

> levels 

> a tiny bit, enough to cause erosion of shorelines and ice shelves. Now where

> inthe GW datsa is that taken into account?

> 

> Henry 

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