[SBE] More on Thread named: Ultrasonic Leak Detection

PuebloTallTower at aol.com PuebloTallTower at aol.com
Sat May 17 19:32:01 EDT 2008


Ladies and gentlemen:

I am sort of old, yet enjoy the informative threads as they present
themselves...

I am so old that most of the high power installations I have worked, were
"pressurized" coaxial systems, and I will provide you with my overview of the
thread as it has presented itself.


Remember, nothing in life is perfect, anything designed not to leak, and that
has seals and junctions will eventually leak. (consider oil hydraulic
systems for example).

However, if one really wishes to isolate minute leaks in a system as
described, my fall back has always been to use automotive technology, as anything that
has to do with cars and their systems and operations will be dirt cheap...

There has always existed what are called "refrigerant leak detectors" these
items are very reasonable in cost, and are sensitive down to parts per billion
... were one to simply inject some r-134a into the pressurized system, one
could actually trace all the leaks easily. My mechanic has shown me a leak in
the case seal of my freon automotive refrigerant pump, that amounts to the loss
of one can of freon in 25 years... the sensor/detector is less than a
hundred bucks and a 12 oz can of 134a without oil is 5 bucks.

now on the other hand, the reason for pressurization is to simply keep the
rain from ingressing into the wave guide or coax. a few ounces of positive
pressure can do this easily. we can receive a few ounces of positive pressure
from a house hold aquarium pump which is rated for continuous service, and is
designed to run a long time, simply use an automotive freon style desiccant
canister, ahead of the air pump, and you have real dry air.

I observe that leaks are not a problem as long as you have a positive flow
that makes it to the end of the line in question.

For my own ham radio purposes, I determined a long time ago, simply allowing
the air filled transmission line to "breath" at a proper pressurization port,
having it breathe through a desiccant filter, keeps the line dry, as there are
never any positive nor negative pressure on the line as the barometer moves
up and down.

a closed line (-inside coax flange with pressurization port plugged) - will
always suck in moisture during a rain storm, but an open one in the building
will not. the telephone guys figured this out a long time ago, and please
notice that the bottom of the overhead line tap boxes, is always open to
atmosphere, even though the multipair "Old time lead lines" and now poly wraps were
sensitive to moisture.

out of time now, good luck... hope it reads well, as I have not had time
to re-read


Harvey E. Smith
2020 Baculite Mesa Road
Pueblo, CO., 81001-2456

719 546 1418
719 671 2671
PuebloTallTower at aol.com or
HarveyEsmith at aol.com





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