[SBE] Copper theft law in Missouri

[Chris Spacone]

Good question and it deserves a good answer. I suppose mains are a dozen or
more feet down depending on the terrain and the entrance facilities to the
building. I didn't make it clear: they didn't dig up the line. The section
comes out of the street and runs along the side of the building for several
feet then goes into the building proper. 

Sorry if I left you with the impression that they dug up the street. It
wasn't that dramatic, just in full view of passers by.

-Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: sbe-bounces at sbe.org [mailto:sbe-bounces at sbe.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Hardy
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:03 AM
To: sbe member discussion mail list
Subject: Re: [SBE] Copper theft law in Missouri

Chris: I know you don't have freezing issues so how deep are water lines
buried in LA?  Here in Tulsa they would have to dig at least three feet
since we have a freeze line. Richard

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Chris Spacone"
  To: "'sbe member discussion mail list'"
  Subject: Re: [SBE] Copper theft law in Missouri
  Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 06:38:49 -0700


  We got hit this weekend.

  We aren't a station, but an origination facility near LAX. Somebody
  turned
  off the water coming from the street and cut out a large section of
  (I'm
  guessing here) 3 inch copper pipe! The workers in the building came
  in for
  their normal shift in the morning and discovered that there wasn't
  any water
  in the bathrooms or kitchen. We called a plumber who found the
  problem right
  away. Pretty ballsy thief(s) as the facility is on a heavily traveled
  street, near a major hotel, towing company and dog kennel!

  !

  Chris

  -----Original Message-----
  From: sbe-bounces at sbe.org [mailto:sbe-bounces at sbe.org] On Behalf Of
  chscherer at everestkc.net
  Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:24 PM
  To: sbe member discussion mail list
  Subject: Re: [SBE] Copper theft law in Missouri

  I agree with you. A law alone is not the final solution. From what I
  hear
  from the Missouri side (I live in Kansas), this step appears to have
  the
  legs to make some changes. I'm hopeful it does. Personally, I think
  the
  fines should be higher. The material payment vs. the potential
  penalty is
  not a significant difference. But please note that I'm not trying to
  punch
  holes in the effort either.

  I am curious if other states have taken similar steps. Also, what are
  the
  penalties? Has it had any effect on the problem?

  Chriss

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Bill Harris

  > It's a start...but if there are no 'teeth' in the
  > law, perhaps not enough.

  > -----Original Message-----
  > chscherer at everestkc.net
  > Some in Missouri say that this legislation is not strong enough
  > to solve the problem, but even they agree it's a start.
  > Chriss
  >
  > >From
 
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2008/05/21/law-copper-thefts-tight
  ened/
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