[SBE] HD plant construction engineer needed

[Henry M. Seiden]

Thanks for a fascinating discussion...

I found it so because of the passionate, and may I say honest  
viewpoints expressed here. Hey, if we can't have a frank discussion  
here amongst ourselves- on topics ranging far and wide- fair wages,  
training, contract vs. temp vs. full-time, hiring practices, and  
whether a 'wireman' is worthy of his/her pay, SBE principles, and  
others- then where can we have it?

Even Barry Thomas, our esteemed President got in a few licks! We all  
have our own strongly held opinions and have to deal within our own  
markets and with local personnel issues.

Mr. Ruhweidel or anyone doing the hiring I'm sure is more than capable  
of determining what their specific local market demands happen to be  
and their own job requirements for that vacancy or position. If not  
they'll end up having to go without help needed.  I wish him good luck  
in his search and commend his posting to the SBE sites seeking  
preferred interested applicants.

When I did similar in looking for individuals I got several good  
responses. I ended up bringing in a good construction person that I  
trained up for the wiring needs on my project. Training a person not  
yet in our industry is worthwhile and if that is Henry's luck to find  
a qualified person (inside the industry or outside it) with the skill  
set needed or perhaps with both the skill set and the drive and  
interest to acquire additional skills, plus use their own talents, so  
much the better! I will say that I negotiated what seemed to me to be  
at the time a fair price to pay for that talent. I think we both got  
fair value in the deal. My hire ended up going longer than either of  
us expected. And I would hire that person again in a heartbeat if he  
were available (which he is not, sadly). So what I consider a good  
hire turned out well for both of us. He made more than he expected!

The compensation is less important in my view than the fit of the  
prospect to the job requirements. At least we all hope so. That will  
make a good hire both short and long term for all concerned. A pool of  
talent is what we all need actually, and cultivating that talent  
should be what the SBE is all about.

Ideally a pool of engineering-related talent, much like the various  
areas of production talent or the skilled tradesmen is essential to  
our industry much as it is in others. Ours engineering world is just a  
tad smaller.

Henry Seiden
On Oct 23, 2008, at 15:38 , A9xw at cs.com wrote:


> Gee, isn't offering 70% above market/union scale in line with  

> upholding pay rates?   It may not be your market/union rate but I  

> bet Montrose CO, Alpena, MI, and a lot of other markets pay less.   

> This industry is based on market size, station annual budget and  

> union contracts. Feel free to demand all the $ you want. You may or  

> may not get it.  Wasn't it some multi-TV station group in west OK or  

> TX that wanted a 24/7 chief to work over a 400 mile circuit with no  

> car no tools, no equipment, no insurance and had to fix the casters  

> on the chairs for $35k a year, and filled the job?  It was posted  

> the station had tons of applicants.  $20/hr is $41,600/yr plus OT,  

> and benies and half your SS paid, unemployment insurance paid,  

> worker's comp paid, and you can collect unemployment as a wage  

> earner since you paid into the system. Self employed? Who you gonna  

> claim unemployment from?

>

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Henry Seiden
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