[SBE] Hybrid issues.

[Albert Muick]

I think you win the cigar, Chris!  That would have been my first guess too.
The statement by the jock is kinda defining.

Whatever the resolution, please keep us posted.  It would be interesting to
know what could have caused it besides the obvious.

Al Muick, CBRE
Kabul, Afghanistan

-----Original Message-----
From: sbe-bounces at sbe.org [mailto:sbe-bounces at sbe.org] On Behalf Of
chscherer at everestkc.net
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:36 PM
To: sbe member discussion mail list
Subject: Re: [SBE] Hybrid issues.

Curt said:
"One jock claims it only happens on live calls, not on pre-recorded calls."

Is it this simple:
Are the problem callers not turning their radios off?

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Tarr <chris at broadcastdoc.net>
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:59 am
Subject: Re: [SBE] Hybrid issues.


> Curt-

> 

> I may be reading that wrong, but wouldn't you want "mics only" to feed

> the hybrid?  Not sure what the "hybrid out" feed would do (except

> maybe offer an option to send audio form the audition channel down the

> line) but the only thing that should feed the hybrid on a regular

> basis is the microphones.  While an echo is indicative of poor

> cancellation, it seems like maybe the caller audio is getting fed back

> down the line.

> 

> -Chris

> 

> Christopher "Doc" Tarr CBRE, CBNT, DRB

> Director of Engineering/IT

> Entercom Milwaukee/Entercom Madison

> 

> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Curt Yengst 

> <cyengst at star991fm.com> wrote:

> > Dear partners in crime:

> >

> > I'm in the process of troubleshooting a complaint from some of 

> our jocks.

> > When they take calls on our Telos 2x12, sometimes the call will 

> have a bit

> > of feedback/echo under the caller.  If the jock pots down the 

> 2x12 output at

> > the console, it can be somewhat controlled, but then the 

> complaint is that

> > the caller audio is too low in level (duh!).  It doesn't happen 

> on every

> > call, but it's enough to irritate them.  We have the Telos 2x12 

> connected to

> > a Wheatstone D-75 audio console, using their SP-75 "Superphone" 

> input> module, which has its own mix-minus.  It also has the 

> ability to generate

> > separate outputs for hybrid out, "mics only" out (everything but the

> > caller), and "callers only" out.  We're using the hybrid outs to 

> feed the

> > 2x12 inputs.  The Caller 1 output of the 2x12 (which gets used 

> almost> exclusively) is split with a Y-cable, with one side going 

> to the caller

> > input on the Superphone module and the other side going directly 

> to the

> > caller side of our VoxPro workstation.  One jock claims it only 

> happens on

> > live calls, not on pre-recorded calls.

> >

> > I e-mailed Telos, and the answer was basically that it was a 

> phone company

> > issue (poor echo cancellation), and since it was coming into the 

> station> sounding that way to begin with, there was nothing we 

> could do about it.

> > Wheatstone basically said the only way their equipment would 

> possibly> exhibit this issue was if caller conferencing wasn't 

> properly set up.  Since

> > the problem happens with single callers, this is moot.

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> >

> > Curt Yengst, CSRE

> > WAWZ

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