[SBE] The future of Broadcasting.

[jer hill]

Allow me to partially cancel Larry's vote :-). This has been a useful thread
for those who are interested in analyzing broadcasting career trends and for
evaluating our future role in technology. Illuminating idea exchanges like
this can confirm technology trends or open my eyes to trends to watch out
for. Though there has been some "grafitti", there has been much restraint
from most of us on controversial politics. Don't throw the baby out with the
bathwater.  
 
Life's Good,
-jer

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From: sbe-bounces at sbe.org [mailto:sbe-bounces at sbe.org] On Behalf Of Larry
Will
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:40 AM
To: sbe member discussion mail list
Subject: Re: [SBE] The future of Broadcasting.


TO SBE Moderator

Would please shut this hopelessly long and boring thread off.

Larry Will, P.E.

At 11:01 AM 3/17/2010, you wrote:


You can only see 4% of the universe doesn't mean the other 96% doesn't
exist. Bury a can with a $1 in it somewhere in Nevada and ask your firends
to find it.  In 20 years go back and get your $1. 


No, but no weapons were found, and the power reactor that Israel bombed some
time back proved to be nothing but a power reactor, no hidden atomic bomb
factory there, or anywhere else. 







-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Reite <br at telcen.com>
To: sbe member discussion mail list <sbe at sbe.org>
Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 10:38 pm
Subject: Re: [SBE] The future of Broadcasting.

No, but no weapons were found, and the power reactor that Israel bombed some
time back proved to be nothing but a power reactor, no hidden atomic bomb
factory there, or anywhere else. 
 
Edwin Bukont wrote: 

> Oh yeah, that's right, and we never found the exact reason for all those >

underground cities designed with French and German know how. You build > a
shelter for what purpose? 

> > Edwin Bukont CSRE, DRB, CBNT > V- 240.417.2475; F- 240.368.1265 > > > >

> > > >

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> To: sbe at sbe.org 

> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:39:28 -0400 

> From: a9xw at cs.com 

> Subject: Re: [SBE] The future of Broadcasting. 

> > > Hey... we have a freakin war with a county that "has weapons of 

> mass destruction" that NEVER did materialize (surprise!) > > Unless you

count the 22 tons of uranium yellow cake that was sent to > Canada from
Iraq, and the pre war 600 truck convoy to Syria spotted by > military
satellite. 

> > Henry 

> > > > -----Original Message----- 

> From: Dan Slentz <dan_slentz at yahoo.com> 

> To: sbe member discussion mail list <sbe at sbe.org> 

> Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 2:24 pm 

> Subject: Re: [SBE] The future of Broadcasting. 

> > Please excuse the following tirade. After reading articles every day >

about the government deciding TV spectrum should go away so each > American
can have wireless broadband, I finally exploded! This might > have just been
done so I could vent. But as I read it more calmly, it > really does make
sense. I'm going to send it to my congressman and > senator. Also going to
send it to an old family friend (Congressman > Zach Space). The government
simply MUST stop with involving itself in > areas that aren't "broke". I'd
say, when they have everything else > fixed, then look for other things to
"fix" (or break). 

> > But this is just my opinion. Nothing more. Nothing less. 

> > > > > This is sickening! For about 10 years broadcasters have jumped

through > hoops and converted to the new digital system.. have spent
millions of > dollars+ and added services.. have built the infrastructure
for "TV of > the future", and now our government decides it wants our
spectrum?!!! > Why at it, why not take away all steel and plastic from car >
manufacturers? How about taking away water from all the food growers? > >
What are TV broadcasters without their spectrum but a cable channel >
(which, by the way, can be modulated with a $1,000 cable modulator and > not
a $5,000,000+ transmitter system). Our government IS OFF THE DEEP > END and
is become nothing less than the politicians of former Communist > Russia.
The government has already taken back channels 59 thru 83 over > the years,
and now they are looking at taking back the rest? Bull crap! > > The amount
of spectrum they say is needed for broadband internet is so > short sighted.
They say there will be 100,000,000 homes at 100 mbps for > this proposed new
service, but in just a few years 100 mbps is going to > be the equivalent of
"dial-up" in terms of speed. It wasn't that long > ago that have 56k was
incredible, but now the amount of data we're > pulling (like down-loading a
pirated movie) would take hours upon hours > to download the old standard.
And they're thinking 100 mbps is going > to be enough?! Whose spectrum do
they intend to swipe when that isn't > enough??? > > We wired this nation
for phones with 99% of Americans now having it. > Let's look at where we
have nearly 100% coverage and determine how we > can run high speed data
over power lines. Or let's wire to every house > with fiber (look at Verizon
FIoS or AT&T.) The speed of fiber has yet > to fully be tapped, and
certainly not going to be "crushed" by > atmospheric conditions and any
other interference (as another national > RF network will certainly do). And
when are we going to finally decide > that all this RF might just be the
cause of the continuously increasing > cancer rate. Think about that! Who
DON'T you know that isn't getting > cancer now! So let's flood every single
U.S. house with yet MORE > transmitters. This is freakin' NUTS! > > Hey..
U.S. government:.. concern yourself with a national water supply > full of
toxins and poisons.. .and an increasing lack of water. Hey... > we have a
freakin war with a county that "has weapons of mass > destruction" that
NEVER did materialize (surprise!) Maybe... just > maybe.. our politicians
should think about how to get the heck out of > THAT mess! What about the
homeless in America? Wanna give them > wireless broadband over the former TV
spectrum? Hey.. here's a NOVEL > IDEA... figure out how to help those
people?!! And what about > unemployement????? How about figuring out a way
to get people back to > work (instead of elmininating another industry -
TV). This is what > seriously ticks me off. Our politicians are NOT focusing
on REAL > PROBLEMS and REAL CONCERNS. They are looking ways to screw things
up > further instead of fixing REAL human issues. > > The government is
talking about people that aren't even using the > internet and saying "if we
build it... they will come". Hey... here's > an idea. If they don't want
it.. don't need it.. aren't asking for > it.. then KEEP YOUR NOSE OUT OF
IT!!! Here's news for you (gov't)... > about 95% of the U.S. population
never used the public library. Didn't > see you going door to door with a
set of encyclopedias for every > American or a library card. LET the people
decide! 

> > Hey politicians!!! STOP listening to wealthy companies wanting to "do >

something for Americans" (in other words.. "looking for another way to >
make money") and START LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED YOU!!! I >
haven't seen protests or huge masses saying "give us wireless > intenet"...
yet somehow you feel this needs to happen. WAKE THE H*LL > UP! When/if you
continue to push the people of this country enough... > and continue to
think YOU (as politicians) know what's best for US > without actually
listening to US... then you WILL find a situation that > really needs your
attention... and that is civil unrest! 

> > I, for one (but not alone), am SICK of this stuff! > > STOP pissing

around with TV and instead focus half that effort on our > polution, our
economy, our ecology, our "war problems", our hungry, our > homeless. Any of
THESE items seem to be a cause worth fighting for? > Or is the REAL ISSUE
and problem that we need wireless 100 mbps across > our nation??!! 

> > > >

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> *From:* Gary O'Guinn <garyo at ktuu.com <  <mailto:garyo at ktuu.com>

mailto:garyo at ktuu.com>> 

> *To:* sbe member discussion mail list <sbe at sbe.org <mailto:sbe at sbe.org >> 

> *Sent:* Tue, March 16, 2010 12:15:25 PM 

> *Subject:* [SBE] The future of Broadcasting. 

> > I have read most of the comments about the death of Free Over The Air >

Broadcasting and it seems to me we broadcasters need to step up. > According
to the majority of comments posted here, most of us feel that > this is a
direct attack on the principals of our government mixed in > with
Congressional greed. If all we are going to do is talk about this > among
ourselves then nothing will be accomplished. If these issues > really mean
something then we need to take an active approach. Call, > write, e-mail
your Congressmen (or women). Tell them that if they allow > the F.C.C. to
proceed along the path they have chosen, these Congressmen > cannot count
upon your support at the polling booth. Pass the word on to > your friends
and family members. 

> > You want change in the government then it's time to step up and remind >

the "Government" that this is a Government of the People, by the People >
and for the People. Not a People of the Government, by the Government, > and
for the Government: as it seems that many in Washington would like > us to
be. 

> > Gary O'Guinn 

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