[SBE] The future of Broadcasting.

Tony Mancari TMancari at wvpt.net
Thu Mar 18 10:35:08 EDT 2010


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From: sbe-bounces at sbe.org [mailto:sbe-bounces at sbe.org] On Behalf Of jer
hill
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:27 AM
To: 'sbe member discussion mail list'
Subject: Re: [SBE] The future of Broadcasting.



Allow me to partially cancel Larry's vote :-). This has been a useful
thread for those who are interested in analyzing broadcasting career
trends and for evaluating our future role in technology. Illuminating
idea exchanges like this can confirm technology trends or open my eyes
to trends to watch out for. Though there has been some "grafitti", there
has been much restraint from most of us on controversial politics. Don't
throw the baby out with the bathwater.



Life's Good,

-jer



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From: sbe-bounces at sbe.org [mailto:sbe-bounces at sbe.org] On Behalf Of
Larry Will
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:40 AM
To: sbe member discussion mail list
Subject: Re: [SBE] The future of Broadcasting.

TO SBE Moderator

Would please shut this hopelessly long and boring thread off.

Larry Will, P.E.

At 11:01 AM 3/17/2010, you wrote:



You can only see 4% of the universe doesn't mean the other 96% doesn't
exist. Bury a can with a $1 in it somewhere in Nevada and ask your
firends to find it. In 20 years go back and get your $1.

No, but no weapons were found, and the power reactor that Israel bombed
some time back proved to be nothing but a power reactor, no hidden
atomic bomb factory there, or anywhere else.





-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Reite <br at telcen.com>
To: sbe member discussion mail list <sbe at sbe.org>
Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 10:38 pm
Subject: Re: [SBE] The future of Broadcasting.

No, but no weapons were found, and the power reactor that Israel bombed
some time back proved to be nothing but a power reactor, no hidden
atomic bomb factory there, or anywhere else.

Edwin Bukont wrote:

> Oh yeah, that's right, and we never found the exact reason for all

those > underground cities designed with French and German know how. You
build > a shelter for what purpose?

> > Edwin Bukont CSRE, DRB, CBNT > V- 240.417.2475; F- 240.368.1265 > >

> > > > > >

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> To: sbe at sbe.org

> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:39:28 -0400

> From: a9xw at cs.com

> Subject: Re: [SBE] The future of Broadcasting.

> > > Hey... we have a freakin war with a county that "has weapons of

> mass destruction" that NEVER did materialize (surprise!) > > Unless

you count the 22 tons of uranium yellow cake that was sent to > Canada
from Iraq, and the pre war 600 truck convoy to Syria spotted by >
military satellite.

> > Henry

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> From: Dan Slentz <dan_slentz at yahoo.com>

> To: sbe member discussion mail list <sbe at sbe.org>

> Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 2:24 pm

> Subject: Re: [SBE] The future of Broadcasting.

> > Please excuse the following tirade. After reading articles every day

> about the government deciding TV spectrum should go away so each >

American can have wireless broadband, I finally exploded! This might >
have just been done so I could vent. But as I read it more calmly, it >
really does make sense. I'm going to send it to my congressman and >
senator. Also going to send it to an old family friend (Congressman >
Zach Space). The government simply MUST stop with involving itself in >
areas that aren't "broke". I'd say, when they have everything else >
fixed, then look for other things to "fix" (or break).

> > But this is just my opinion. Nothing more. Nothing less.

> > > > > This is sickening! For about 10 years broadcasters have jumped

through > hoops and converted to the new digital system.. have spent
millions of > dollars+ and added services.. have built the
infrastructure for "TV of > the future", and now our government decides
it wants our spectrum?!!! > Why at it, why not take away all steel and
plastic from car > manufacturers? How about taking away water from all
the food growers? > > What are TV broadcasters without their spectrum
but a cable channel > (which, by the way, can be modulated with a $1,000
cable modulator and > not a $5,000,000+ transmitter system). Our
government IS OFF THE DEEP > END and is become nothing less than the
politicians of former Communist > Russia. The government has already
taken back channels 59 thru 83 over > the years, and now they are
looking at taking back the rest? Bull crap! > > The amount of spectrum
they say is needed for broadband internet is so > short sighted. They
say there will be 100,000,000 homes at 100 mbps for > this proposed new
service, but in just a few years 100 mbps is going to > be the
equivalent of "dial-up" in terms of speed. It wasn't that long > ago
that have 56k was incredible, but now the amount of data we're > pulling
(like down-loading a pirated movie) would take hours upon hours > to
download the old standard. And they're thinking 100 mbps is going > to
be enough?! Whose spectrum do they intend to swipe when that isn't >
enough??? > > We wired this nation for phones with 99% of Americans now
having it. > Let's look at where we have nearly 100% coverage and
determine how we > can run high speed data over power lines. Or let's
wire to every house > with fiber (look at Verizon FIoS or AT&T.) The
speed of fiber has yet > to fully be tapped, and certainly not going to
be "crushed" by > atmospheric conditions and any other interference (as
another national > RF network will certainly do). And when are we going
to finally decide > that all this RF might just be the cause of the
continuously increasing > cancer rate. Think about that! Who DON'T you
know that isn't getting > cancer now! So let's flood every single U.S.
house with yet MORE > transmitters. This is freakin' NUTS! > > Hey..
U.S. government:.. concern yourself with a national water supply > full
of toxins and poisons.. .and an increasing lack of water. Hey... > we
have a freakin war with a county that "has weapons of mass >
destruction" that NEVER did materialize (surprise!) Maybe... just >
maybe.. our politicians should think about how to get the heck out of >
THAT mess! What about the homeless in America? Wanna give them >
wireless broadband over the former TV spectrum? Hey.. here's a NOVEL >
IDEA... figure out how to help those people?!! And what about >
unemployement????? How about figuring out a way to get people back to >
work (instead of elmininating another industry - TV). This is what >
seriously ticks me off. Our politicians are NOT focusing on REAL >
PROBLEMS and REAL CONCERNS. They are looking ways to screw things up >
further instead of fixing REAL human issues. > > The government is
talking about people that aren't even using the > internet and saying
"if we build it... they will come". Hey... here's > an idea. If they
don't want it.. don't need it.. aren't asking for > it.. then KEEP YOUR
NOSE OUT OF IT!!! Here's news for you (gov't)... > about 95% of the U.S.
population never used the public library. Didn't > see you going door to
door with a set of encyclopedias for every > American or a library card.
LET the people decide!

> > Hey politicians!!! STOP listening to wealthy companies wanting to

"do > something for Americans" (in other words.. "looking for another
way to > make money") and START LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED
YOU!!! I > haven't seen protests or huge masses saying "give us wireless

> intenet"... yet somehow you feel this needs to happen. WAKE THE H*LL >

UP! When/if you continue to push the people of this country enough... >
and continue to think YOU (as politicians) know what's best for US >
without actually listening to US... then you WILL find a situation that

> really needs your attention... and that is civil unrest!

> > I, for one (but not alone), am SICK of this stuff! > > STOP pissing

around with TV and instead focus half that effort on our > polution, our
economy, our ecology, our "war problems", our hungry, our > homeless.
Any of THESE items seem to be a cause worth fighting for? > Or is the
REAL ISSUE and problem that we need wireless 100 mbps across > our
nation??!!

> > > >

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> *From:* Gary O'Guinn <garyo at ktuu.com < mailto:garyo at ktuu.com

<mailto:garyo at ktuu.com> >>

> *To:* sbe member discussion mail list <sbe at sbe.org <mailto:sbe at sbe.org

>>

> *Sent:* Tue, March 16, 2010 12:15:25 PM

> *Subject:* [SBE] The future of Broadcasting.

> > I have read most of the comments about the death of Free Over The

Air > Broadcasting and it seems to me we broadcasters need to step up. >
According to the majority of comments posted here, most of us feel that

> this is a direct attack on the principals of our government mixed in >

with Congressional greed. If all we are going to do is talk about this >
among ourselves then nothing will be accomplished. If these issues >
really mean something then we need to take an active approach. Call, >
write, e-mail your Congressmen (or women). Tell them that if they allow

> the F.C.C. to proceed along the path they have chosen, these

Congressmen > cannot count upon your support at the polling booth. Pass
the word on to > your friends and family members.

> > You want change in the government then it's time to step up and

remind > the "Government" that this is a Government of the People, by
the People > and for the People. Not a People of the Government, by the
Government, > and for the Government: as it seems that many in
Washington would like > us to be.

> > Gary O'Guinn

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