[Techtoolslist] More updates to ftp - FLUKE

[Andre Huijts]

WTF ?? I just hooked up a bare sub 9 connector to the 9100A and powered it up to check if the +5V was actually there because I didn't trust this....

Measured between pins 1 and 2. Nothing. No voltage.

So then I thought, maybe only when the video card is set up for B/W it will output +5V....

So I moved the jumper block to position Z1 and tried again....now I got something like 0,3V !

Looks like someone made a mistake in that schematic.....


Op 16 nov. 2012, om 23:34 heeft Andre Huijts <a.huijts at upcmail.nl> het volgende geschreven:


> Mmm, not exactly what I was looking for, but I already got the correct info.

> 

> I must say it was pretty dangerous of Fluke to use a standard IBM CGA connector, configure it exactly like that connectors EXCEPT for pin 2 which carries +5V where the CGA standard says its GROUND ! 

> 

> I think you might blow up the Fluke video card if you try to hook up a standard CGA monitor (not that these are very common anymore.....).

> 

> I just figured out all the pins of the Sub 9 and the SCART connector and made a nice table, also including the 74LS04 as per Andy's suggestion for the sync. inversion.

> I assume I put the H and V sync straight into one of the inputs and then have that signals inverted on the outputs. However there is one more last step to make and that is combining the H and V sync because SCART needs combined sync.

> 

> Can I simply connect the two outputs together ? 

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> Op 16 nov. 2012, om 22:46 heeft John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> het volgende geschreven:

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>> Andre Huijts wrote:

>>> Aaarrggghhhh,

>>> 

>>> I am quite sure I posted the video connector pin out on this list, but I can't find it ! Can somebody help, the soldering iron is already hot and I want to see some video ! :)

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> from the archives (2008) - Andy Welburn wrote:

>> 

>> The video card can output B/W or color, this is set by the jumpers on the vidocard itself. Grab the service manual and look at the schem for the video card to work out what the jumpers should be (i haven't made a note of this unfortunately) but its obvious from the schems.

>> 

>> I've seen docs that say the video is 'IBM CGA compatible'... it is true that it is low-res 15hz, it has seperate syncs, and they're inverted, so invert them then combine them in order to run it on an arcade monitor...

>> 

>> (thanks Andy!)

>> 

>> John :-#)#

>>> Op 16 nov. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Andre Huijts <a.huijts at upcmail.nl> het volgende geschreven:

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>>> 

>>>> I read about booting from floppy on Andy's page:

>>>> 

>>>> quote: 

>>>> If your system is hosed for whatever reason and you need to boot from floppies, put the disk you want to boot from in the drive, power on, just press [softkeys|F2|F4] before the memory test finishes, the fluke will now seek and load from DR1. Even if your hard disk is buggered, you can boot from floppies made in task 1 and still use your system, or at least make a start at the recovery process.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> From this page: http://www.andysarcade.net/personal/tech/fluke9100/index.htm

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>>>> Op 16 nov. 2012, om 21:44 heeft John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> het volgende geschreven:

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>>>> 

>>>>> Andre Huijts wrote:

>>>>> 

>>>>>> I do have two service disks but both have hand-written labels on them so I'm not sure how "official" they are.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> One says: Service and test 1.2 (or V.2, the ink has become very unclear), the other is Service V6

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> I also have disks without any info on the label at all. I also have V4.0 original disks, I suppose these are pretty worthless though.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Could use them to try to write from my images. Can I start-up my 6100A from floppies ? I know I have to hold a couple of keys to make it boot from floppy but will it be safe for the Harddisk ? I guess I could remove the SCSI cable.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> I also just checked the clock battery, only 2,8V left, gonna replace that.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>> You can boot the 9100 from floppies - I've done it with a hard drive unplugged. Not sure if you can over-ride the boot sequence if a HD is connected, if there is a key sequence I am not familiar with it (nice to know!).

>>>>> 

>>>>> Won't hurt to unplug the HD of course.

>>>>> 

>>>>> Service V6 sounds like the latest one (might even be a copy from the FTP site like Martin mentioned!), if you can compare it with the TTL copy that would be nice...

>>>>> 

>>>>> John :-#)#

>>>>> 

>>>>>> Op 16 nov. 2012, om 21:06 heeft John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> het volgende geschreven:

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>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> Martin White wrote:

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> I’ve got a service disk here somewhere - and the only place it will have come from it the Flippers FTP so there’s a good one there somewhere ��

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> Thanks Martin!

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> Ah, well then chances are very good that the zipped file (SERVICE6.zip) is fine. It does not come up with an error when unzipped after all (just checked that). It is now found under Fluke/9100A/Diagnostic-files

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> So, now to install teledisc and see if it will work on an XP machine DOS window and reconstruct the floppy - maybe I'll get to that on Monday...

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> As an aside, TEMP-UNI.zip appears to be 9100 based "UNIVERSAL STATION DIAGNOSTICS". Anyone have info on that? From the menu it appears to be a UUT self guided fault finding program of some sort.

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> Need someone (anyone interested?) to make a text directory of all these files and what they do...someday...

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> John :-#)#

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> From: John Robertson

>>>>>>>> Sent: ‎16‎ ‎November‎ ‎2012 ‎19‎:‎48

>>>>>>>> To: Technical Tools Mail List

>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] More updates to ftp - FLUKE

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> Andre Huijts wrote:

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> By the way.....

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> Maybe this is common knowledge, and I knew these systems were expensive BITD but I was still pretty surprised to see the catalogue prices here:

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> http://www.teknetelectronics.com/DataSheet/FLUKE/FLUKE_9100A43535.pdf

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> OK, the 35,000 dollar version got you a 9 day training but still.......pretty weird to realize I have that system on my table here now :)

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> Anyone any luck with the images I uploaded ? Or at least were you able to recreate the floppies ?

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> Hi Andre,

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> I have added your upload to the 9100 section (just renamed it to Andres - Fluke 9100 Floppy Images.zip - to be easier to spot). As far as I know the original 6.1 images are good, but if I have time I'll compare them.

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> Do you have a Service Disk in your collection? I'm not sure if the SERVICE6.zip file is valid - made that in 2002, but have since lost track of the original and need a DOS machine to recreate the floppy! Used teledisc.exe if I recall correctly...

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> John :-#)#

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> Op 16 nov. 2012, om 19:29 heeft Andre Huijts <a.huijts at upcmail.nl> het volgende geschreven:

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>> O yes we care ! :)

>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>> In fact I was about to download the whole lot now anyway.... :)

>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>> Thanks !

>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>> Op 16 nov. 2012, om 19:22 heeft John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> het volgende geschreven:

>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if anyone else cares, but I have been cleaning up the Fluke subdirectory for the past few days.

>>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>>> Have eliminated many duplicate and superfluous files (files both in zips and unzipped), sorted out the various DOS applications for the 9010 and 9100 and zipped  them up better.

>>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>>> Will continue to review site, but I think it is easier to navigate and a bit more obvious.

>>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>>> Next challenge is to organize the 9010 scripts - that is a mess! Give me a week or two to get around to that...

>>>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>>>> John :-#)#

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