[Techtoolslist] 9100FT Programmer’s Keyboard

William Stillwell ki4swy at gmail.com
Sat Oct 7 13:32:41 EDT 2017


I am working on a version now, I received a keyboard for testing so should
be soon.

On Oct 6, 2017 8:13 PM, "Ian Eure" <ian at retrospec.tv> wrote:

> This has been done a couple times, but none of them are currently
> available or very well documented.  I’m sure it would be well-received if
> you produced a new version.
>
> Personally, I’m interested in understanding the original, and replicating
> it, if possible, so a converter box is less desirable for me.
>
>
> > On Oct 6, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Dave Riddle (Technical Dept.) <
> enginr at windstream.net> wrote:
> >
> > Make an in-between box that accepts the new keyboard codes as is and
> converts them to the useful hex code at the useful baud rate.  What? Maybe
> five chips on a 2 x 2 board? Just need those custom keycaps, then.
> >
> >> On 10/6/2017 3:20 PM, Andrew Finn via Techtoolslist wrote:
> >> WOW many thanks for taking the time and trouble to take and upload the
> pics of the unit, was very interesting! I emailed keytronics for
> information or the rom data but as expected they don't have any info now
> earlier than 2000 so that's out the window!!
> >>
> >> It is a copy of a keytronics KB101 early keyboard and with the detailed
> pics have started mapping the keys to the fluke, I am also looking into
> getting a modern keyboard made with these fluke key legends on them, it has
> rekindled me to look into all this and devise a pic chip to change the baud
> rate so a modern keyboard can be used, now I have done the fluke video
> cards I still need a keyboard so this has inspired me to look into it all
> again!
> >> Getting hold of those old style clicky keyboards seems a very expensive
> exercise!! But there are company's that will print anything you want on key
> caps for them, so even that is a option if KB101 keyboards can be found!!
> >>
> >> The project goes on!!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On 4 Oct 2017, at 2:07 am, Ian Eure <ian at retrospec.tv> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:21 PM, John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2017/10/03 5:05 PM, Ian Eure wrote:
> >>>>> I finally tracked down a Programmer’s Keyboard for my 9100.  I don’t
> >>>>> know how widely it’s known, but there were two different versions
> >>>>> of the keyboard.  The only photos I’ve seen are the earlier model,
> >>>>> which meant that I almost let this one slip away.  It was on eBay,
> new
> >>>>> old stock, for $36 shipped!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All the info is in the manuals, if you look.  I had always wondered
> >>>>> why the keyboard illustrations in the Programmer’s Manual didn’t
> match
> >>>>> the photos of the keyboard I’d seen.  It’s because I read scans of a
> >>>>> later (1991) printing, which has illustrations of the later revision
> >>>>> of the keyboard.  I haven’t seen a 1988 printing, but I bet it shows
> >>>>> the earlier keyboard layout.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The various 9100 service manuals list different part numbers:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 9100A Supplemental Parts List (May 1988), fig. 5-21, p. 5-53
> >>>>> ----
> >>>>> Lists p/n 5-64995-131.  This seems to be the more common version of
> >>>>> the keyboard.  It has a block of (mostly) 2u keys on the far right,
> >>>>> angled RETURN key, and arrows by the SHIFT and RETURN keys.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Photo: https://i.imgur.com/undefined.png
> >>>> Broken link.
> >>> Here’s what I was trying to share: http://www.dragonslairfans.
> com/smfor/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6456.0;attach=11160
> >>>
> >>> I’d be interested to know what’s inside one of these, maybe it uses
> normal switches and could be used to reproduce one.
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