[Techtoolslist] Need a new mail-list host for TTL!

[John Robertson]

On 2025-09-25 5:28 a.m., William Stillwell wrote:
> BOOOOOOO....
>
> Groups.IO Pricing
> $0.44/member (min $220/year) billed annually (1 month free)
>
> there is also googlegroups ( which is freee... HOWEVER, the caveat is 
> if used for Business ) it's NOT free... unless your a non-profit...
>
> How many people are on the list John?
>
>
>
> groups.io <http://groups.io>
>
> William Stillwell
>
Yeah, after setting this up way back in Nov 1999 to have it killed off 
now (expiry Jan 1, 2026) is tiresome.

/Over time, the free PairList mailing list program (based on GNU 
Mailman) has become unreliable as most mail hosts now require strict 
email validation standards (SPF, DKIM, DMARC). PairList cannot support 
these features, causing messages to be delayed, marked as spam, or 
rejected. Because of this declining reliability, we believe the service 
no longer meets our standards and will be discontinued./

/PairList has served our users well for many years. While we are sad to 
retire it, we are exploring a more reliable replacement service for the 
future./

We are currently under Mailman 2.1.39

I'm not sure if I'd want to be under Googlegroups - they mine 
everything...the less I give them the happier I am.

We have 172 members, so groups.io would want $220USD/year.

John :-#(#

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> On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 1:45 AM John Robertson via Techtoolslist 
> <techtoolslist at flippers.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi folks,
>
>     I just got a note from my hosts at Pair.com that they are dropping
>     mailists and that I need to migrate TTL to another mail list
>     service...
>
>     Anyone have any suggestions?
>
>     I could change to groups.io <http://groups.io> I suppose - I would
>     still maintain the FTP
>     directory on flippers FTP site.
>
>     Anyway, just posting this out there...
>
>     John :-#)#
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