[Techtoolslist] Need a new mail-list host for TTL!

[Bill Karkula]

I have no problem with an annual monetary contribution to help keep TTL alive.
Best Regards,

Bill

> On Sep 25, 2025, at 10:53 AM, Brad Gass via Techtoolslist <techtoolslist at flippers.com> wrote:
> 
> I would also be fine with making a contribution toward a list serv annual cost, but I'm not sure how many would be willing to contribute or if as a group we could consistently get to the $220 annual fee?
> 
> Although I run several low-volume internet facing services (and have for many years), a list server is one thing I have *not* ever run.  I'm not afraid of delving into it if that is the most viable option, and Mailman 3 actually looks pretty slick in general.
> 
> Where / how it's hosted isn't really a problem (I'm becoming increasingly impressed with the value/performance of Hetzner services).  But it is likely a fair bit of work to get setup and going initially, so I think it would need to be much clearer that was going to be the path needed before really digging in deep.
> 
> --Brad
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Stillwell" <ki4swy at gmail.com>
> To: "jrr" <jrr at flippers.com>, "Technical Tools Mail List" <techtoolslist at flippers.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2025 10:34:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Need a new mail-list host for TTL!
> 
> That's a lot cheaper then what it costs me to run romident.coinopflorida.com
> ( $1200/year )
> 
> they need to come up with a list server where members pay to be a part of
> it, instead of the host trying to recoup costs from members. I would be
> happy to pay $5/year to keep this list going.
> 
> William Stillwell
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 10:28 AM John Robertson via Techtoolslist <
>> techtoolslist at flippers.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2025-09-25 5:28 a.m., William Stillwell wrote:
>>> BOOOOOOO....
>>> 
>>> Groups.IO Pricing
>>> $0.44/member (min $220/year) billed annually (1 month free)
>>> 
>>> there is also googlegroups ( which is freee... HOWEVER, the caveat is
>>> if used for Business ) it's NOT free... unless your a non-profit...
>>> 
>>> How many people are on the list John?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> groups.io <http://groups.io>
>>> 
>>> William Stillwell
>>> 
>> Yeah, after setting this up way back in Nov 1999 to have it killed off
>> now (expiry Jan 1, 2026) is tiresome.
>> 
>> /Over time, the free PairList mailing list program (based on GNU
>> Mailman) has become unreliable as most mail hosts now require strict
>> email validation standards (SPF, DKIM, DMARC). PairList cannot support
>> these features, causing messages to be dela