[game_edu] Ad Hoc committee

[Paul Lipson]

Wow.

I am a very attentive lurker.... and this is ridiculous.  People are  
watching.



> the only person who brings experience with all the variations of  

> higher ed establishment



Careful.

Paul




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On Mar 15, 2008, at 3:51 PM, Stacey Simmons wrote:


> PLEASE STOP BICKERING ON THE LIST!  If you want to have a fight,  

> then have a fight- IN PRIVATE!!!

>

> Stacey

>

>

> On Mar 15, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Tim Langdell wrote:

>

>> No. Apparently its a matter of balance and I am the only person who  

>> brings experience with all the variations of higher ed  

>> establishment and yet I am the one you exclude even though I was  

>> the first person to repsond to the list asking to be part of the  

>> committee.

>>

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: Brenda Brathwaite

>> To: IGDA Game Education Listserv

>> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:13 AM

>> Subject: Re: [game_edu] Ad Hoc committee

>>

>> Goodness. Apart from my brief, successful and enjoyable contact  

>> with you at the IGDA edu panel at GDC, I have had no personal or  

>> professional contact with you upon which to develop any reasons.  

>> Fortunately, in just a couple months, there will be opportunity for  

>> everyone to give feedback on the committee's findings.

>>

>> I regret that you are dissapointed to such a degree. As I mentioned  

>> in my email, it is not a question of credentials alone.

>>

>> Brenda

>>

>> On Mar 15, 2008, at 10:09 AM, "Tim Langdell" <langdell at gmail.com>  

>> wrote:

>>

>>> I note that Brenda has excluded me from being on the ad hoc  

>>> committee, despite my probably being the person who has taught  

>>> longest (over 14 years), taught at both 2-year and 4-year  

>>> universities and at trade schools, and taught in both the US and  

>>> UK. It could not be more obvious that you are exclusing me for  

>>> personal reasons and this really has to stop.

>>>

>>> Get a life Brenda and Susan, stop excluding people for personal  

>>> reasons and realise that we all have something to contribute here.

>>>

>>> Tim Langdell PhD

>>>

>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>> From: S. Gold

>>> To: IGDA Game Education Listserv

>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:11 AM

>>> Subject: Re: [game_edu] Ad Hoc committee

>>>

>>> I want to thank everyone for their time and thoughts regarding the  

>>> development of a checklist/stamp of approval or whatever we end up  

>>> calling this. I do not want to be in the accreditation business,  

>>> but in the recommendation and best practices. The goal of the SIG  

>>> is to be as transparent as possible, we have no intention of  

>>> trying to do something like this behind anyone's back. It is my  

>>> goal to be as inclusive as possible in our growth, plans and  

>>> development. As our genre grows in maturity, we need to prepare  

>>> and plan appropriately. A few folks have pulled me aside, worried  

>>> about the slippery slope this could be, thank you and understood.  

>>> We can not ignore our responsibility, which is first to the  

>>> students.

>>>

>>> How we take these next steps is really up to the membership and  

>>> the Ad Hoc committee. I have asked Brenda Brathwaite to chair the  

>>> committee and we will be sending out letters to those that have  

>>> applied to the committee on March 15. We are still in need of  

>>> representation from community colleges, large liberal arts  

>>> institutions, international institutions as well as what we  

>>> consider to be vocational schools. I would like to make sure that  

>>> we have fair representation in this process. We can only do that  

>>> if those institutions participate, so please apply, all voices are  

>>> equal in this process. The duration of the committee, unless they  

>>> ask otherwise, is from mid-March to June, not a life-time  

>>> commitment and yes, a great CV item, but also a big responsibility.

>>>

>>> I am going to throw a few more email bombs out before I go offline  

>>> for a chunk of time in the future, what fun to come home to so  

>>> many replies, lol. Nice to see that everyone is actually reading  

>>> my emails.

>>>

>>> Thank you,

>>>

>>> Susan

>>>

>>>

>>> On 3/2/08 8:48 PM, "Roberts, Scott" <sroberts at cti.depaul.edu> wrote:

>>>

>>> A good example of a school already using something like this is  

>>> FIEA. They have “5 Questions to Ask” for parents:

>>> http://www.fiea.ucf.edu/shield/showpage.php?page_id=1007

>>>

>>> The IGDA could create our own list, with variations for different  

>>> types of programs, along the lines of what we’d ask schools  

>>> ourselves.  This list could be widely publicized, including the  

>>> Career Guide website and magazine, even guidance counselors.   

>>> Schools could post the list and how they address each  

>>> recommendation.  I imagine that someone would create a website  

>>> doing side-by-side comparisons broken down by types of school and  

>>> program.

>>>

>>>

>>> Scott

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> From: game_edu-bounces at igda.org [mailto:game_edu-bounces at igda.org]  

>>> On Behalf Of Mark Baldwin

>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:58 PM

>>> To: 'IGDA Game Education Listserv'

>>> Subject: Re: [game_edu] Ad Hoc committee

>>>

>>> Hi,

>>>

>>> (Note, I’m on board ship at the same conference as Susan.  We are  

>>> sailing off the coast of Cuba as I write this, and yes the ship  

>>> has Internet, although it is expensive.   Just talked to her and  

>>> she’s prepping for a presentation on the IGDA framework in a  

>>> couple of hours).

>>>

>>> I would like to put my two cents here.   I don’t think the IGDA  

>>> has the resources to accomplish accreditation, and there are a  

>>> number of big and scary problems associated with such  

>>> accreditation that have been brought up by a number of  

>>> individuals.  But I do like Scott’s comments on  the idea of a  

>>> published checklist that gives the prospective customer a  

>>> framework from which to ask questions and make their own  

>>> evaluations.   This is a much more manageable goal, and one I  

>>> believe could be effective yet flexible.  It allows the  

>>> prospective student to evaluate the school not based on a fixed  

>>> criteria but instead on what the customer is interested in.

>>>

>>> I would encourage looking in that direction.

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>> Mark

>>>

>>> ******************************************

>>>  Mark Lewis Baldwin

>>> Game Design and Development

>>>  University of Advancing Technology

>>>  303-526-9169

>>>  mbaldwin at uat.edu

>>>  http://baldwinconsulting.org <http://baldwinconsulting.org/>

>>>  mar80401 (YIM, AIM, Skype)

>>> ******************************************

>>>

>>>

>>>

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>>>

>>> -- 

>>> Susan Gold

>>> goldfile at gmail.com

>>>

>>> “In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom!” - J. G.  

>>> Ballard

>>>

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