[game_edu] Ad Hoc committee

[Stacey Simmons]

PLEASE STOP BICKERING ON THE LIST!  If you want to have a fight, then  
have a fight- IN PRIVATE!!!

Stacey


On Mar 15, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Tim Langdell wrote:


> No. Apparently its a matter of balance and I am the only person who  

> brings experience with all the variations of higher ed establishment  

> and yet I am the one you exclude even though I was the first person  

> to repsond to the list asking to be part of the committee.

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Brenda Brathwaite

> To: IGDA Game Education Listserv

> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:13 AM

> Subject: Re: [game_edu] Ad Hoc committee

>

> Goodness. Apart from my brief, successful and enjoyable contact with  

> you at the IGDA edu panel at GDC, I have had no personal or  

> professional contact with you upon which to develop any reasons.  

> Fortunately, in just a couple months, there will be opportunity for  

> everyone to give feedback on the committee's findings.

>

> I regret that you are dissapointed to such a degree. As I mentioned  

> in my email, it is not a question of credentials alone.

>

> Brenda

>

> On Mar 15, 2008, at 10:09 AM, "Tim Langdell" <langdell at gmail.com>  

> wrote:

>

>> I note that Brenda has excluded me from being on the ad hoc  

>> committee, despite my probably being the person who has taught  

>> longest (over 14 years), taught at both 2-year and 4-year  

>> universities and at trade schools, and taught in both the US and  

>> UK. It could not be more obvious that you are exclusing me for  

>> personal reasons and this really has to stop.

>>

>> Get a life Brenda and Susan, stop excluding people for personal  

>> reasons and realise that we all have something to contribute here.

>>

>> Tim Langdell PhD

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: S. Gold

>> To: IGDA Game Education Listserv

>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:11 AM

>> Subject: Re: [game_edu] Ad Hoc committee

>>

>> I want to thank everyone for their time and thoughts regarding the  

>> development of a checklist/stamp of approval or whatever we end up  

>> calling this. I do not want to be in the accreditation business,  

>> but in the recommendation and best practices. The goal of the SIG  

>> is to be as transparent as possible, we have no intention of trying  

>> to do something like this behind anyone's back. It is my goal to be  

>> as inclusive as possible in our growth, plans and development. As  

>> our genre grows in maturity, we need to prepare and plan  

>> appropriately. A few folks have pulled me aside, worried about the  

>> slippery slope this could be, thank you and understood. We can not  

>> ignore our responsibility, which is first to the students.

>>

>> How we take these next steps is really up to the membership and the  

>> Ad Hoc committee. I have asked Brenda Brathwaite to chair the  

>> committee and we will be sending out letters to those that have  

>> applied to the committee on March 15. We are still in need of  

>> representation from community colleges, large liberal arts  

>> institutions, international institutions as well as what we  

>> consider to be vocational schools. I would like to make sure that  

>> we have fair representation in this process. We can only do that if  

>> those institutions participate, so please apply, all voices are  

>> equal in this process. The duration of the committee, unless they  

>> ask otherwise, is from mid-March to June, not a life-time  

>> commitment and yes, a great CV item, but also a big responsibility.

>>

>> I am going to throw a few more email bombs out before I go offline  

>> for a chunk of time in the future, what fun to come home to so many  

>> replies, lol. Nice to see that everyone is actually reading my  

>> emails.

>>

>> Thank you,

>>

>> Susan

>>

>>

>> On 3/2/08 8:48 PM, "Roberts, Scott" <sroberts at cti.depaul.edu> wrote:

>>

>> A good example of a school already using something like this is  

>> FIEA. They have “5 Questions to Ask” for parents:

>> http://www.fiea.ucf.edu/shield/showpage.php?page_id=1007

>>

>> The IGDA could create our own list, with variations for different  

>> types of programs, along the lines of what we’d ask schools  

>> ourselves.  This list could be widely publicized, including the  

>> Career Guide website and magazine, even guidance counselors.   

>> Schools could post the list and how they address each  

>> recommendation.  I imagine that someone would create a website  

>> doing side-by-side comparisons broken down by types of school and  

>> program.

>>

>>

>> Scott

>>

>>

>>

>> From: game_edu-bounces at igda.org [mailto:game_edu-bounces at igda.org]  

>> On Behalf Of Mark Baldwin

>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:58 PM

>> To: 'IGDA Game Education Listserv'

>> Subject: Re: [game_edu] Ad Hoc committee

>>

>> Hi,

>>

>> (Note, I’m on board ship at the same conference as Susan.  We are  

>> sailing off the coast of Cuba as I write this, and yes the ship has  

>> Internet, although it is expensive.   Just talked to her and she’s  

>> prepping for a presentation on the IGDA framework in a couple of  

>> hours).

>>

>> I would like to put my two cents here.   I don’t think the IGDA has  

>> the resources to accomplish accreditation, and there are a number  

>> of big and scary problems associated with such accreditation that  

>> have been brought up by a number of individuals.  But I do like  

>> Scott’s comments on  the idea of a published checklist that gives  

>> the prospective customer a framework from which to ask questions  

>> and make their own evaluations.   This is a much more manageable  

>> goal, and one I believe could be effective yet flexible.  It allows  

>> the prospective student to evaluate the school not based on a fixed  

>> criteria but instead on what the customer is interested in.

>>

>> I would encourage looking in that direction.

>>

>> Cheers,

>> Mark

>>

>> ******************************************

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>>  University of Advancing Technology

>>  303-526-9169

>>  mbaldwin at uat.edu

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>>

>>

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>> -- 

>> Susan Gold

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>>

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