[game_edu] [JOB] changed to discussion

[Seth Sivak]

I personally think it is one thing to have the occasional academic member
post a job and another to have a professional staffing person/service post
to the list.  This person is clearly a recruiter, therefore hoping to
commercially gain from use of this list in a rather direct way.  I would
make the distinction at who the person is that is using the list, if it is a
recruiter than I would rather not see their posts.

Clearly this is just my opinion, but i get enough of this sort of stuff
anytime I update my LinkedIn profile.

Seth

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Ali Arya <arya at carleton.ca> wrote:


> I think before we answer that question, we need to come with some

> principles that help us make such decisions. So I start with my suggestions

> for those principles (open to discussion of course):

>

> 1- We should not discourage people from providing information (through some

> channels) that is or may be interesting to members. This includes but is not

> limited to job postings and CFPs.

> 2- We should encourage participation and discussions, again through some

> channels.

> 3- We should avoid sending too many emails as it will become hard to follow

> and easy to miss critical announements.

> 4- We should make it easy to exchange information while not forcing

> everybody to read everything even if un-related to them.

> 5- We should minimize the admin overhead as admins are volunteers.

> 6- We should keep the list and related tools as non-commercial as possible.

>

> Based on these principles, I think we need to have web-based channels for

> "less important" subjects (needs to be defined) and limit the mailing list

> to "important" ones. We can come up with some definitions and guidelines and

> continue to have an open non-monitored posting system unless seriously

> abused. My suggestions for "important" subjects are CFPs, starting a new

> discussion (not continuing it), and group-related announements especially

> from admins (such as events and policies). Discussions and job postings need

> to have their own web-based tools. Ideally, members can subscribe to these

> and receive them via email if interested (common in web forums and blogs).

>

> Best,

> Ali

>

> ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Gold

> To: IGDA Game Education Listserv

> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:27 PM

> Subject: Re: [game_edu] [JOB] changed to discussion

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> So what do you all think about having someone post jobs on the listserv? I

> do not monitor who requests membership to our listserv, however, this seems

> like the 1st time someacademicone has ever posted a job on the list that was

> not academic. What are your thoughts, should we allow this type of posting?

> Should we even allow academic job postings? I would like to get your

> feelings and possibly come up with some stipulations or recommendations. The

> IGDA is about to launch a new website and with it many more communication

> tools. Should we add content like job openings to the site? If so, do you

> want to be in charge of it? Should they be limited to purely academic in

> nature? Although I am not too big on tight governance, I think we have grown

> to a reasonable size ~800 folks. I think we should have a discussion about

> what to do with jobs, equal to what we do with CFP? In addition, we should

> have an expanded web presence, not just a list. What are some of the things

> we can move off the list and onto the site? I post slides from talks and

> photos from conferences, but that is about all. We are volunteer based and

> the SIG and this list is what you make it. We have a new school year coming

> up, new opportunities for collaboration and I hope possibilities for growth

> in our organization.

>

>

> Susan

>

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> On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Beau Gould (OSS) wrote:

>

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