[game_edu] Definition of a Game

[Nic Colley]

For those not aware of the game Passage, you can download it here. http://hcsoftware.sourceforge.net/passage/

Hmm. Using Passage as the example now, wouldn't this be more classified as an experiance/art and not as a game? Yes fun is to broad to be in the definition of a game, but there still should be something that alludes to it as most people play games for that very purpose.

I guess I need to ask what is your definition of play? Is it just the mere interaction that denotes "play"?

For me, play can be defined with one's enjoyment and pleasure with an activity.


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From: Ian Schreiber [ai864 at yahoo.com]
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Note that "play" is different from "fun." Jason Rohrer's Passage is not fun, but it is most definitely a game, and a play activity.

- Ian

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I have to agree with you there Peter. Some interesting discussions have occured.

The reason I asked the question was to see if anyone had/is incorporating the word fun/enjoyable into the definition. When I saw the post from Susan, I was delighted and suprised to see the word "play" in it. Fun and enjoymnet are to broad in the definition alone. Let alone the fact that fun is like art, no real consistent definition. I have come across some definitions that almost define a game but in the end only define an application like Excel.
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OTOH, I have found that just writing the question on the board makes for an interesting class discussion- also a nice introduction to the whole program.

Peter Border
Game and Application Design Coordinator
Globe University/Minnesota School of Business
1401 West 76th St
Richfield, MN 55423
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There is no single definition. Salen & Zimmerman's "Rules of Play" lists no less than nine (including its own), and also includes a discussion of why all definitions are bound to be flawed. Our Curriculum Framework offers a tenth definition, which came from me just throwing something at the wall and no one speaking up to shoot it down :)
There's no "official" IGDA definition that I know of, other than that.

- Ian

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I am curious to see what everyone's definition of a game. Also is there a one that the igda has?
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