[game_edu] Definition of a Game

[Corvus Elrod]

The definition of game that I use is strongly linked to my definition of
play.

*Game* is a set of rules and/or conditions established by a community and
intended as a bounded space for play.

*Play* is any pastime with a primary goal of self-guided exploration of
possibility within a bounded space.

I'd argue that Passage falls firmly under this definition of game.

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On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Nic Colley <Nic.Colley at cpcc.edu> wrote:


> For those not aware of the game Passage, you can download it here.

> http://hcsoftware.sourceforge.net/passage/

>

> Hmm. Using Passage as the example now, wouldn't this be more classified as

> an experiance/art and not as a game? Yes fun is to broad to be in the

> definition of a game, but there still should be something that alludes to it

> as most people play games for that very purpose.

>

> I guess I need to ask what is your definition of play? Is it just the mere

> interaction that denotes "play"?

>

> For me, play can be defined with one's enjoyment and pleasure with an

> activity.

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Ian Schreiber [ai864 at yahoo.com]

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> Note that "play" is different from "fun." Jason Rohrer's Passage is not

> fun, but it is most definitely a game, and a play activity.

>

> - Ian

>

> ________________________________

> From: Nic Colley <Nic.Colley at cpcc.edu>

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> Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 11:22:46 PM

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>

> I have to agree with you there Peter. Some interesting discussions have

> occured.

>

> The reason I asked the question was to see if anyone had/is incorporating

> the word fun/enjoyable into the definition. When I saw the post from Susan,

> I was delighted and suprised to see the word "play" in it. Fun and enjoymnet

> are to broad in the definition alone. Let alone the fact that fun is like

> art, no real consistent definition. I have come across some definitions that

> almost define a game but in the end only define an application like Excel.

> ________________________________________

> From: Peter Border [pborder at msbcollege.edu<mailto:pborder at msbcollege.edu>]

> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:12 PM

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>

> OTOH, I have found that just writing the question on the board makes for an

> interesting class discussion- also a nice introduction to the whole program.

>

> Peter Border

> Game and Application Design Coordinator

> Globe University/Minnesota School of Business

> 1401 West 76th St

> Richfield, MN 55423

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> game_edu-bounces at igda.org<mailto:game_edu-bounces at igda.org>] On Behalf Of

> Ian Schreiber [ai864 at yahoo.com<mailto:ai864 at yahoo.com>]

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> There is no single definition. Salen & Zimmerman's "Rules of Play" lists no

> less than nine (including its own), and also includes a discussion of why

> all definitions are bound to be flawed. Our Curriculum Framework offers a

> tenth definition, which came from me just throwing something at the wall and

> no one speaking up to shoot it down :)

> There's no "official" IGDA definition that I know of, other than that.

>

> - Ian

>

> ________________________________

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> I am curious to see what everyone's definition of a game. Also is there a

> one that the igda has?

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