[game_edu] game_edu Digest, Vol 51, Issue 5

[Mark Baldwin]

Ian is correct.   I would also like to note that you seemed to equate 'game'
with 'simulation' as being redundant.   I would suggest that they are not.
While it can be argued that all electronic games (especially serious games)
are simulations, the reverse is not true.   All simulations are not games.
In this context, game implies both interactivity and possibly goal
orientation that is not characteristic to simulations in general.

 

Mark

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From: game_edu-bounces at igda.org [mailto:game_edu-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf
Of Ian Schreiber
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:06 AM
To: IGDA Game Education Listserv
Subject: Re: [game_edu] game_edu Digest, Vol 51, Issue 5

 


"Serious games" is already a term in common use in the field. I think it was
coined by Ben Sawyer, meant to describe the use of games in a context that
is primarily productive in nature (as opposed to primarily for
entertainment).

 

In this context, a sporting event is not a "serious game"... no matter how
much it means to you personally ;-)

 

Is there a reason you find this particular term redundant or unnecessary, or
am I just totally failing to understand your point?

 

- Ian

--- On Tue, 1/13/09, J. Klabbers <jklabbers at kmpc.nl> wrote:

From: J. Klabbers <jklabbers at kmpc.nl>
Subject: Re: [game_edu] game_edu Digest, Vol 51, Issue 5
To: game_edu at igda.org
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 5:32 AM

See Item 1: PhD position in Serious Gaming (S. Gold)

 

A matter of terminology in professional communication.

 

In the announcement below the following phrasing is curious: "The Department
of Industrial Design at the Eindhoven University of Technology has an
opportunity you can take to join a team for development of serious games for
medical simulation, with a focus on birth delivery".

 

Suppose we would agree that the forthcoming match between Manchester United
and Liverpool is a serious game. For the sake of clear professional
communication, wouldn't be more suitable to rephrase the line, reading: "The
Department of Industrial Design at the Eindhoven University of Technology
has an opportunity you can take to join a team for development of medical
simulation, with a focus on birth delivery".

 

That would make the term "serious game" as redundant as it is in this
context, or am I missing something special? 

 

I am looking forward to the day that we may receive an advert for a PhD
position in Non-Serious Gaming, whatever that would mean.

 

J. Klabbers

jklabbers at kmpc.nl

 

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