[game_edu] Qol, "crunch" and Education

[Corvus Elrod]

I'm not sure it's appropriate to conflate the QoL SIG and forum trolls. I
think there are valid concerns about the message the Game Jam might send
about QoL and if people aren't hearing the message about sleep from the GGJ
then we need to find other ways to communicate it.

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Corvus

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Susan Gold <goldfile at gmail.com> wrote:


> Just a note... the QofL SIG and many forum trolls went off on GGJ last year

> at the same time. Not only did the GGJ stress that people get sleep, last

> year it was one of the achievements. No matter what GGJ does say via the

> website or words of advice, QofL feels that this is the time to strike on a

> yearly basis. I think QofL needs to find a way to speak to the issue, but

> feel that they use GGJ as a good place to take out all of their

> frustrations.

>

> Susan

>

>

> On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Corvus Elrod wrote:

>

> I stressed the importance of sleep and proper diet at our jam this year. As

> a result, a lot of the teams ensured they got proper night's sleep. At the

> postmortem we held last night, it was the teams that got sleep that had the

> most complete and polished games.

>

> I'm hoping that the Jam will continue to serve as proof that crunch doesn't

> work as well as sleep. But it takes putting that message out there

> continuously to make it stick.

>

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> Corvus

>

> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Jose P. Zagal <jzagal at cdm.depaul.edu>wrote:

>

>>

>>  The timing of this thread, in the week following Global Game Jam, is

>>> hilarious.

>>>

>>> "We should not encourage students to "crunch", or expect that they

>>> will, or assign them work such that they have no way of completing it

>>> without having to put in crunch-style hours."

>>>

>>> Unless it's fun.

>>>

>>

>>

>> You raise a good point that I've wrestled with over the years.

>>

>> Does Game Jam somehow legitimize (in the eyes of the students) overtime

>> and crunching? I don't really have an answer for that, and I hope that

>> someone explores the question...

>>

>> I am concerned that it does, and this year I almost cut the "overnight"

>> aspect. What I have done, as far as organizing Game Jam is:

>>

>> 1. On Friday I send everyone home. Game Jam only runs overnight from Sat

>> to Sun.

>>

>> 2. We end earlier on Sunday (11am, rather than 3pm)

>>

>> 3. I make sure to provide decent meals (within budgetary constraints)

>> rather than snacks to create opportunities for participants to take a break,

>> step away from the computer, and nourish themselves properly.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> José P. Zagal

>> Assistant Professor

>> College of Computing and Digital Media

>> DePaul University

>>

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