[games_access] E for All and GDC booths

Eelke Folmer eelke.folmer at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 04:03:21 EDT 2007 

Hey michele!

I just did my workout! so I'd be glad to help you carry stuff!
Did you pay the $1200 yourself???? that's crazy.
we should all chip in for those costs.

cheers eelke

On 10/10/07, d. michelle hinn <hinn at uiuc.edu> wrote:
> The $1200 is just not the power -- that's way cheaper than I though.
> it's the carpet requirement, etc and all the other little details
> that add up to $1200. I had twenty forms to fill out and price them
> down. I'll explain more tomorrow when I'm not faxing forms like
> crazy. If I could even get half of the money I'd be happy....well,
> happier ;)
>
> Keep in mind...they gave us huge discounts because we are non
> profit...I can't even imagine people how much, say, Microsoft is
> paying...
>
> Also, the stuff we haul...we get to be allowed to haul what ONE
> PERSON can CARRY TO THE BOOTH each day...and Eelke...We have giant
> wheeled suitcases shoulder bags and more and you are a tall tall guy.
> :) The union has let us have a lot of leeway thank goodness. The
> table was one of the more pricey items...but the biggest thing that
> was necessary!!!
>
> M
>
> >Hmmmm.....
> >
> >It sounds like some crazy mafia scheme imposed by Tony Soprano himself ;-)
> >
> >what if we don't use any powerplugs at all? One of my friend had a
> >booth at that same conference center and he just brought laptops and
> >didn't use anything that needed to be "hauled" (the union has to do
> >that). We can all bring laptops and charge them anywhere. 1200 bucks
> >is too much to pay for a non profit organisation like us.
> >
> >cheers Eelke
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 10/10/07, Thomas Westin <thomas at pininteractive.com> wrote:
> >>  Hi Michelle,
> >>
> >>  ouch, 1200 dollars...
> >>
> >>  I have another idea:
> >>
> >>  Why don't ask for donations in the booth? Put a note in the booth and
> >>  explain why
> >>
> >>  And / or charge 10 USD for the SIG CD in the booth? Each CD with a
> >>  simple cover and label cost perhaps 1 USD in direct costs, giving you
> >>  9 USD back.  People could also pay more for it if they wish of
> >>  course. I think a 100 CDs is reasonable to sell, giving you most of
> >>  it back.
> >>
> >>  Or give the CD as a bonus to those who donate 10 USD or more
> >>
> >>  /Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  10 okt 2007 kl. 19.14 skrev d. michelle hinn:
> >>
> >>  > Yep -- we should definitely put a link to that on the wiki and on
> >>  > the blog -- great idea.
> >>  >
> >>  > To give you all an idea of how much cost we are at...it's $1200
> >>  > (they gave us half off for the cause and the miscommunication/my
> >>  > misunderstanding of how these things work...so that's better than
> >>  > $1200. This is coming out of my pocket.
> >>  >
> >>  > Now to talk to the electrician union...
> >>  >
> >>  > Michelle
> >>  >
> >>  >> Are we okay to get a PayPal donate button for funds? If so - it
> >>  >> would be good to get this on the blog and main web-page pdq.
> >>  >>
> >>  >> I can put a bit towards the show too.
> >>  >>
> >>  >> Barrie
> >>  >> www.OneSwitch.org.uk
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "d. michelle hinn" <hinn at uiuc.edu>
> >>  >> To: "IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List"
> >>  >> <games_access at igda.org>
> >>  >> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:26 PM
> >>  >> Subject: [games_access] E for All and GDC booths
> >>  >>
> >>  >>> Hi all,
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> Ok some really bad news...
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> I admit I have NEVER but together a booth for an expo as large as
> >>  >>> E for All. Because I'm not a marketing person (although I tend to
> >>  >>> play one with the SIG) I have just learned that I have to pay up
> >>  >>> to a thousand dollars for carpet, tables, electricity (that whole
> >>  >>> exact number of things that need to be plugged in, union money,
> >>  >>> etc). Wow.
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> Yeah. Crap. Nice thing to learn with a week to go. There are two
> >>  >>> unions that a required to (1) put the carpet, tables etc in our
> >>  >>> booth and (2) actually set up and plug in our stuff IF it takes
> >>  >>> more than one person 30 minutes to set up the whole booth.
> >>  >>> Yeah...and I heard from a friend who used to exhibit at E3 that
> >>  >>> the unions will watch people like hawks.. I realize that we have
> >>  >>> a number of people showing up at staggered times (ie, not
> >>  >>> everyone will be there on the Wednesday we set up and some set up
> >>  >>> will occur later). I'm hoping that late set up of some things can
> >>  >>> be done quickly and less intrusively so we don't occur more cost.
> >  > >>>
> >>  >>> If anyone going to the show can help out with the cost (and I'm
> >>  >>> about to learn the total damage), please, please do so. I'll
> >>  >>> obviously just need to eat the cost (thank you nearly maxed out
> >>  >>> credit card) at this point but any/all donations and/or ideas for
> >>  >>> post-show sponsorship is GREATLY appreciated. If you have ideas
> >>  >>> for last minute fund raising...please let me know with exact
> >>  >>> details and contact info (please don't just tell me to ask
> >>  >>> disability organizations -- exact contact info is what I need at
> >>  >>> this point).
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> More bad news...the GDC booth...
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> There was some major miscommunication -- IGDA is NOT covering the
> >>  >>> cost of the booth (they will cover the cost of fliers for both
> >>  >>> shows) and I'm waiting to find out the total for a 100 square
> >>  >>> foot booth (same size as E for All) -- CMP is going to give us a
> >>  >>> significant discount but I just don't know what this entails.
> >>  >>> Because we are finding this out now, we have time to beg for a
> >>  >>> few hundred here and there (for any tech we show that is earning
> >>  >>> revenue, as much as possible is appreciated). I realize that none
> >>  >>> of us are making big money if we are making any money. So the
> >>  >>> bulk of the fund raising is going to have to come elsewhere. And
> >>  >>> I'm ok with that. But the same weird rules for E for All (carpet,
> >>  >>> drapes for the tables, the cost of the tables, etc is also going
> >>  >>> to be tacked on.
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> Yes...I found this out AFTER the GDC proposal deadline and we
> >>  >>> didn't have a main GDC arcade (we're trying for an indie games
> >>  >>> one now but that won't get the people that don't show up until
> >>  >>> Wednesday. I really want this booth to work out. And we have time
> >>  >>> to raise some cash because we have a few months to do so. So if
> >>  >>> we can come close to cost, that will be better than nothing.
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> Welcome to the big leagues. Sure, the booth is a significant
> >>  >>> boost and we can get more press attention and dev and gamer
> >>  >>> attention (all are important in spreading the word). For E for
> >>  >>> All I have (believe it or not) sent over 700 press release style
> >>  >>> emails to raise press awareness) -- can you believe my contact
> >>  >>> list is that big now??? I didn't realize how hard I have worked
> >>  >>> to get these until I put it into excel.
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> So thoughts? Ideas?
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> Michelle
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