[games_access] E For All Flyer Update

d. michelle hinn hinn at uiuc.edu
Sat Oct 13 20:17:49 EDT 2007 

Yeah, at the end of the day (maybe even this one?) we just need to 
print the flier and say "according to the US Census, about 20%...."

If people grill us on the number we can point them to the US census 
and other groups and/or have long midnight chats over coffee 
discussing the statistic and what it does and does not represent. 
While the numbers are important to get...we aren't the SIG for 
disability statistics. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't keep 
thinking about the numbers, as companies will want to know (and 
always grill us on them). But we just need to run this flier to the 
printer now.

Michelle

>Guys come on... this is not a legal document and it is not a 
>contract vehicle that is going to be executed at the end of the day. 
>This is a flier, not a scientific paper being proofed for next 
>months Journal Nature. Add the word ABOUT or ROUGHLY and move on. It 
>is a great opening statement and a simple qualifier will make this 
>fine. We have 18.6% to 23% so say "about 20%" and move forward.
>
>I know I am new to the group, and I keep quiet, but I have seen less 
>discussion on buying a new house.
>
>Mark
>
>Eitan Glinert wrote:
>>Be careful with that statistic, it's a bit tricky (though I've used 
>>it myself.) According to the 2000 US census, some 18.6% of 16-64 
>>year old US citizens have a disability. But that number can be 
>>misleading for several reasons:
>>1. The age ranges are bizarre. They go from 0-4, 5-15, 16-64, and 65 and up.
>>2. Disabilities tend to be very heavily congregated towards the 
>>higher age range. In the 16-64 group, for instance, the majority of 
>>that 18.6% lies in the top third of the age range.
>>3. Disability is nebulously defined. Does missing a leg mean that 
>>you can't play games (save DDR?) How about a severe, but 
>>non-incapacitating illness? ADHD?
>>
>>Moral is: Be careful with that number.
>>Eitan
>>
>>At 05:39 PM 10/13/2007, d. michelle hinn wrote:
>>>According to the latest US census (I called a friend who has a 
>>>friend that works for the census AND it's on their website), 49 
>>>million people have a disability in the United States. That's 
>>>19.4%. So I think we can safely say "nearly 20% of the United 
>>>States population has a disability, according to the latest census 
>>>data" (better wording can probably be found but that's a stab at 
>>>it). This is from the official US census government website. So we 
>>>should go with just the US in the flier because we can say that 
>>>with more certainty plus the expo is in the US and probably 
>>>covered more by US media...at least for this first year of its 
>>>existence.
>>>
>>>Richard -- I hope you have a little bit of extra time to tweak the 
>>>flier. You have been VERY generous with your time and creativity 
>>>to help with this!
>>>
>>>Michelle
>>>
>>>>Yes, you are right -- it definitely changes things, which I meant 
>>>>to add and didn't so thanks for raising this issue. I just wasn't 
>>>>sure what was meant by "a country" and would prefer if we could 
>>>>say "the world" but I don't know the percentages and certainly we 
>>>>need to adjust the numbers depending on the wording. I'm not sure 
>>>>we should say the 10-20% until we get more confident in our 
>>>>numbers per country. We are still kind of making a guess when it 
>>>>comes to just the United States.
>>>>
>>>>With that in mind...what should we have as our opening statement 
>>>>on our flier? We don't have a long time to decide -- I need to 
>>>>get it to the printer as soon as possible so we need to make sure 
>>>>we say only what we are comfortable saying. So we need some 
>>>>brainstorming help ASAP!!!
>>>>
>>>>Michelle
>>>>
>>>>>Maybe I completely suck at math but doesn't changing "country" to
>>>>>world COMPLETELY change the facts? If we can't do that no one is going
>>>>>to give us any respect.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't even know if 10 - 20% of a given country is the truth, I'm
>>>>>sure Richard did the research.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 10/12/07, hinn at uiuc.edu <hinn at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>  I can't open these at all:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  http://kmt.hku.nl/~richard/e4all/e4allflyer4onpage.jpg
>>>>>>  http://kmt.hku.nl/~richard/e4all/e4allflyermaster0001.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  How big are they? Can you try to send as attachments if the 
>>>>>>total is under 50 mg?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  One thing to change:
>>>>>  > http://kmt.hku.nl/~richard/e4all/e4allflyer0009.jpg
>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  "in a country" -- maybe "between 10 and 20% (on average) of 
>>>>>>the world population..." instead? That or "in each country." 
>>>>>>but i prefer the world wording
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ---- Original message ----
>>>>>>  >Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:49:36 +0200
>>>>>>  >From: "AudioGames.net" <richard at audiogames.net>
>>>>>>  >Subject: [games_access] E For All Flyer Update
>>>>>>  >To: "IGDA Games Accessibility SIG Mailing List" <games_access at igda.org>
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >Hee,
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >Due to calculation error of my part, I had to rescale the 
>>>>>>flyer a little
>>>>>>  >bit. See latest versions here:
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >http://kmt.hku.nl/~richard/e4all/e4allflyer0009.jpg
>>>>>>  >http://kmt.hku.nl/~richard/e4all/e4allflyermaster0001.jpg (2 on page)
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >Michelle: 4 on page I can do, but text will become small...
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >Greets,
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >Richard
>>>>>>  >
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