[CIS-PAGID] Anti-TNF in pt with selective antibody deficiency

John Ziegler j.ziegler at unsw.edu.au
Sun May 29 01:07:36 EDT 2011


One would expect impaired Pneumovax responses in patients on MTX and etanercept (eg http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18502006) is a result of the therapy - it would be interesting to know the response to 10- or 13-valent Pc conjugate vaccines and perhaps such patients should receive cotrimoxazole prophylaxis. I suppose IgAD in case 2 is more significant as a predisposing factor for the RA than a consequence of anything.


From: pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org [mailto:pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org] On Behalf Of Hare, Nathaniel D
Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 11:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [CIS-PAGID] Anti-TNF in pt with selective antibody deficiency

Colleagues,

To follow up on Joe Church's question, I basically have the same question about using IVIG in patients either on a TNF-inhibitor or in whom one will possibly be started. In both patients, I am wondering if I need to add IVIG. Like Joe, I am wondering if I am being too cautious.

Patient 1
30 yo male with psoriatic arthritis
Treated with methotrexate
Rheumatology wants to add etanercept
Specific Antibody Deficiency (response to 5/23 pneumococcal serotypes after Pneumovax vaccination, tested while on methotrexate)
Tested b/c of history of recurrent pneumonia that predated the methotrexate therapy


Patient 2
47 yo female with symmetric polyarticular inflammation B27 positive CCP positive, treated with methotrexate and etanercept
Selective IgA deficiency, IgG4 subclass deficiency (for what it's worth) and specific antibody deficiency (response to 2/23 pneumococcal serotypes after Pneumovax vaccination, tested while on methotrexate and etanercept)
Tested b/c history of chronic sinusitis, CT documented.


Thanks,

Nathan Hare


Nathaniel D. Hare MD
Allergy & Immunology
CMC - Dartmouth Hitchcock Keene
Keene, NH 03431

ph (603) 354-5496
fax (603) 354-5498
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From: pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org [mailto:pagid-bounces at list.clinimmsoc.org] On Behalf Of Church, Joseph
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 9:11 PM
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Subject: [CIS-PAGID] Anti-TNF in pt with selective antibody deficiency

Colleagues:

I am following a 12yo girl who has rheumatoid arthritis per our Rheumatology service. They are recommending anti-TNF therapy.

However, she also has IgA deficiency and selective antibody deficiency (+ response to 2 of 23 pneumococcal serotypes tested after Pneumovax immunization. These were evaluated because of recurrent sinusitis.

My bias would be to put her on IVIG or SCID while she is receiving anti-TNF. Am I being overly cautious?

Thank you for your time.

Joe Church
Children's Hospital Los Angeles



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