[CIS PIDD] [cis-pidd] Heterozygous RAG1 mutation, isolated CD4 lymphopenia, warts and bone marrow hypoplasia

CIS-PIDD cis-pidd at lists.clinimmsoc.org
Tue Feb 14 08:57:26 EST 2017


Agree with Kate that his marrow will likely get worse over time. Would at least type patient and potential donors. Any signs of dysplasia in bone marrow? Would send MDS FISH panel and conventional cytogenetics if not done with molecular studies.
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Subject: Re: [cis-pidd] Heterozygous RAG1 mutation, isolated CD4 lymphopenia, warts and bone marrow hypoplasia

Agree, but if recombination activity of that mutant is 100%, then you rule out RAG as a problem. We have found several cases where RAG genetic variants have been published and attributed a disease causing effect, whereas in fact they behave absolutely like wild-type RAG1 9and indeed several of these are reported at relatively high frequency in ExAC).

I also agree with Kate that sometimes you don't find a gene, and yet a decision must be taken!

Gigi Notarangelo

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Date: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 6:28 AM
To: CIS-PIDD <cis-pidd at lyris.dundee.net<mailto:cis-pidd at lyris.dundee.net>>
Subject: Re: [cis-pidd] Heterozygous RAG1 mutation, isolated CD4 lymphopenia, warts and bone marrow hypoplasia

Even with RAG functional testing, it still leaves the fact that this is heterozygous so there must be an enhancer/regulatory/splice site defect on the other allele for this to be meaningful.


I guess the question is about management and one possible answer would be BMT.  At 23y, his window of opportunity will only get smaller.

I wanted to post to just get on my soapbox to say that you don't always need a gene.  We know WES misses a fair bit and while BMT may or may not be the right answer for this specific patient, I want to just say that we shouldn't let our gene search and desire for mutations and other technical aspects let us delay therapy.  I know that wasn't what was intended in the responses but it seemed like a good opportunity to say this important message again.

For warts specifically- we LOVE topical cidofovir.  Every expensive and often need to partner with other therapies but we LOVE it.

Kate



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On Feb 14, 2017, at 6:06 AM, CIS-PIDD <cis-pidd at lists.clinimmsoc.org<mailto:cis-pidd at lists.clinimmsoc.org>> wrote:

We have tested (and extensively published) on the recombination activity of more than 90 RAG1 genetic variants. Send me the specifics of the mutation and I may be able to tell you whether it is functionally relevant. No patient samples are needed for this.

Luigi D Notarangelo
Laboratory of Host Defenses
National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
National Institutes of Health
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On Feb 14, 2017, at 6:01 AM, CIS-PIDD <cis-pidd at lists.clinimmsoc.org<mailto:cis-pidd at lists.clinimmsoc.org>> wrote:
Dear Boaz,

Ad 3: Please contact Klaus Schwarz (cc), he will need fibroblasts to perform the assay.

Best wishes, St.


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Dear all,

We are evaluating a 23yo male with idiopathic CD4 lymphopenia (~150-200 T CD4) clinically he presented with:
- generalized verrucosis (since age 16)
- slowly progressive signs of bone marrow hypoplasia: macrocytic anemia (Hb ~11, MCV 100), thrombocytopenia (Plt ~100.000), normal neutrophils. Hypoplastic bone marrow, with lymphoid infiltrates. No molecular abnormalities in the BM.
- autoimmune thyroiditis
- vitiligo (as Koebner phenomenon around the warts)
- otherwise healthy, without history of infections in spite of the lymphopenia

Normal Ig, with slightly elevated IgE
IgM 0.6 g/L
IgA 1.05 g/L
IgG 10.2 g/L
IgE 394

Lymphopenia, mainly CD4 with reduced naive compartment, inverted CD4/8 ratio and elevated T g/d lymphocytes.
Lymphocytes 820
T CD4 170
T CD8 326
T GD 159
B 60
NK 28
T CD4 Naive (CD45RA+/CCR7+) 4.9%
T CD4 TEM (CD45RA-/CCR7-) 67.5 %
T CD4 TCM (CD45RA-/CCR7+) 24 %
T CD4 TEMRA (CD45RA+/CCR7-) 3.50%

Reduced TREC, normal KREC

High titer ANA antibodies (>1:640, SP pattern), + anti-Pm/Scl antibodies
Anti-TPO antibodies and anti-TG antibodies

WES found an unreported heterozygous RAG1 mutation, in an highly conserved area of the Zn binding domain, predicted to be damaging.

My questions:

1) How to manage the warts? They are resistant to topical therapies and relapse after surgical excision. Furthermore an high risk HPV strain was isolated, rising serious concerns about cancerous evolution. Interferon was proposed as an option, but we are worried about autoimmune manifestations. Does anyone have any experiences?

2) Have you ever seen this bone marrow picture with RAG mutations?

3) Is there someone (possibly in Italy or Europe) who can evaluate the recombinase activity, to confirm the mutation relevance?

Sorry for the lenghty email, and thanks in advance,
Kind regards,

Dr. Boaz Palterer
Dept. of Clinical and Experimental Medicine
Allergology and Clinical Immunology
University of Florence, Italy
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