[SBE] SBE Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1

[Cross, Robin]

Did you go to the VFW site.  It is a little bit late now.  We will have our shows archived on our site.

 
 
Robin Cross, WØFEN, Chief Engineer

KCUR
University of Missouri - Kansas City
4825 Troost Ave     Suite 202
Kansas City, MO 64110
Reception 816-235-1551
Office 816-235-2880
Fax  816-235-2864
crossr at umkc.edu
www.kcur.org
 
Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

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>    1. VFW convention audio (Cross, Robin)

>    2. Re: VFW convention audio (Henry Seiden)

>    3. audio problem (John Poray)

>    4. used equipment for free (John Poray)

>    5. Re: audio problem (Albert Muick)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:29:22 -0500

> From: "Cross, Robin" <crossr at umkc.edu>

> Subject: [SBE] VFW convention audio

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> KCUR is streaming the entire VFW audio from the convention floor.  It is a clean

> uninterrupted feed from the audio PA mixing board.  Stations may take the audio off

> the stream as long as they credit "KCUR-FM, Kansas City".  We also ask that you

> notify KCUR of intent to use any/all portions of the stream.  There is no requirement

> for the usual Station agreement since you will not be taking our AIR audio.  All the

> Presidential Candidates who are speaking and President Bush will be carried

> without interruption.

> 

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> It is a mono 64K audio stream using a TIE-LINE unit from the convention floor to

> KCUR studios.  It does use digital compression.

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> http://kcurstream2:8000/listen.pls

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> It can also be accessed from our website

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> http://www.kcur.org/

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> Robin Cross, W?FEN, Chief Engineer

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> KCUR

> University of Missouri - Kansas City

> 4825 Troost Ave     Suite 202

> Kansas City, MO 64110

> 

> Reception 816-235-1551

> 

> Office 816-235-2880

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> Fax  816-235-2864

> crossr at umkc.edu

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> www.kcur.org

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> Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear bright until you

> hear them speak.

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> Message: 2

> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:19:46 -0400

> From: Henry Seiden <info at techworkspro.com>

> Subject: Re: [SBE] VFW convention audio

> To: "SBE National discussion mail list <sbe at sbe.org>" <sbe at sbe.org>

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> Do we have a time and date for this?

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> On 8/20/07 11:29, "Cross, Robin" <crossr at umkc.edu> typed:

> 

> >

> > KCUR is streaming the entire VFW audio from the convention floor.  It is a

> > clean uninterrupted feed from the audio PA mixing board.  Stations may take

> > the audio off the stream as long as they credit "KCUR-FM, Kansas City".  We

> > also ask that you notify KCUR of intent to use any/all portions of the stream.

> > There is no requirement for the usual Station agreement since you will not be

> > taking our AIR audio.  All the Presidential Candidates who are speaking and

> > President Bush will be carried without interruption.

> >

> >

> >

> > It is a mono 64K audio stream using a TIE-LINE unit from the convention floor

> > to KCUR studios.  It does use digital compression.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > http://kcurstream2:8000/listen.pls

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > It can also be accessed from our website

> >

> >

> >

> > http://www.kcur.org/

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Robin Cross, W?FEN, Chief Engineer

> >

> >

> > KCUR

> > University of Missouri - Kansas City

> > 4825 Troost Ave     Suite 202

> > Kansas City, MO 64110

> >

> > Reception 816-235-1551

> >

> > Office 816-235-2880

> >

> > Fax  816-235-2864

> > crossr at umkc.edu

> >

> > www.kcur.org

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear bright until

> > you hear them speak.

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> Message: 3

> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:01:27 -0400

> From: "John Poray" <jporay at sbe.org>

> Subject: [SBE] audio problem

> To: <sbe at sbe.org>

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> Can anyone on the SBE Roundtable offer an opinion to the audio problem

> described in the message below?  The person asking the question is not a

> member of SBE and therefore not subscribed to the Roundtable so please reply

> off-line to him.    admaker at ntelos.net

> 

> 

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> John Poray  <mailto:y at sbe.org>

> 

> *****************************************

> 

> John L. Poray, CAE

> 

> Executive Director

> 

> Society of Broadcast Engineers, Inc.

> 

> 9102 N. Meridian Street, Suite 150

> 

> Indianapolis, IN 46260 USA

> 

> Phone: (317) 846-9000   Fax:(317) 846-9120

> 

>  <mailto:jporay at sbe.org> jporay at sbe.org

> 

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Michael Holmes [mailto:admaker at ntelos.net]

> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:55 PM

> To: mclappe at sbe.org

> Subject: Request re signal processor difficulty

> 

> Sirs:

> 

>             I am a radio commercial producer of 30 years experience.

> 

>             I have a signal processor called an SPL (Sound Performance

> Laboratory, Germany) Vitalizer.  It enhances audio signals with a

> combination of dynamic EQ, amplitude-controlled phase correction and

> harmonic filtering.  The result is greatly enhanced transparency.

> 

>             This device is used in recording studios, post-production

> facilities, and live sound reinforcement.  It is advertised for these

> purposes plus as an enhancing device in broadcast facility audio chains.

> 

>             For some reason, it distorts my commercials on the air, and has

> since I began using it.  I hear no distortion whatsoever in my studio.   I

> use its effect sparingly.  I'm not overdriving anything, and people at the

> stations say that my MP3's sound wonderful in their monitors (internal, not

> off-air monitors, which exhibit the distortion to them as well).  The

> company that manufactures this device is well-respected worldwide and has a

> good-sized range of audio products:

> 

>            SPL Home:      http://spl-usa.com/index.html

> 

>            Vitalizer page:  http://spl-usa.com/V_MK2/in_short.html

> 

>             If it is possible, I would like to put this problem before your

> membership in the hope that someone has had experience with this device and

> can offer insight or solution to this difficulty.

> 

>             I think it important to note that only someone familiar with

> this device will be able to address the issue.  Again, my levels are good,

> and are identical with or without the device in the chain.  With the device

> I get on-air distortion.  Without I don't.  To the best of my knowledge

> there are no other variables or differences.   The stations report that

> in-house everything sounds fine.

> 

>             Thanks very much!

> 

> Michael Holmes

> 

> admaker at ntelos.net

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> Message: 4

> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:26:26 -0400

> From: "John Poray" <jporay at sbe.org>

> Subject: [SBE] used equipment for free

> To: <sbe at sbe.org>

> Message-ID: <006501c7e4c0$0aad1ec0$3c02000a at sbe.local>

> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

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> Please reply to Bill off line at bbarber at wtvz.sbgnet.com if you're

> interested.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> > -----Original Message-----

> 

> > From: Bill Barber [mailto:bbarber at wtvz.sbgnet.com]

> 

> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:16 AM

> 

> > To: jporay at sbe.org

> 

> > Subject: post to bulletin board?

> 

> >

> 

> > John,

> 

> >

> 

> > I would like to post to the bulletin board a used Avid Airplay (actually

> 

> > 5 of them - 2 running and 3 for parts) which will be free for the taking

> 

> > in about 4 weeks.  This is an antique, but we have kept the system

> 

> > running because we have collected parts from all over the Eastern U.S.

> 

> >

> 

> > It crosses my mind that someone else might still be running this (God

> 

> > bless them) system, and be able to use the parts.

> 

> >

> 

> > Can you assist?  Thanks for your attention.  wb

> 

> >

> 

> > --

> 

> > Bill Barber

> 

> > C.E., WTVZ-TV/DT

> 

> > Norfolk, VA

> 

> > 757.622.3333

> 

> 

> 

>  <mailto:y at sbe.org>

> 

> *****************************************

> 

> John L. Poray, CAE

> 

> Executive Director

> 

> Society of Broadcast Engineers, Inc.

> 

> 9102 N. Meridian Street, Suite 150

> 

> Indianapolis, IN 46260 USA

> 

> Phone: (317) 846-9000   Fax:(317) 846-9120

> 

>  <mailto:jporay at sbe.org> jporay at sbe.org

> 

> 

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> Message: 5

> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:51:29 -0700 (PDT)

> From: Albert Muick <radioresearch_field_operations at yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: [SBE] audio problem

> To: sbe member discussion mail list <sbe at sbe.org>

> Cc: admaker at ntelos.net

> Message-ID: <548809.65720.qm at web53612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

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> 

> Hi Guys,

> 

>   Sounds like a kinda basic problem, so I am replying to the group and the

> gentleman as well.

> 

>   If it's OK in his studios, and the stations' studios, but sounds bad on the air, it

> seems to me that it's nothing specific to the make/model of his audio chain

> equipment.  It sounds like a phasing issue (make sure his left/right outputs follow

> the inputs) or the fact that his processed audio is being re-processed by the

> stations' audio and modulation chain.

> 

>   If the left/right outputs from his device are reversed, it could conceivably cause

> this condition, however, he states that when the device is out of the chain,

> everything is normal.  What he doesn't state is whether the device is internally

> bypassed or it is patched around.  This could give us further clues in a phasing

> issue.

> 

>   As we all know, re-processing processed audio makes one's signal sound like the

> s*** sandwich of the airwaves.  I think it could be the stations' compressor limiter

> (Orban/Omnia) that is re-processing this and causing the troubles.

> 

>   Any other ideas?

> 

>   Best regards,

> 

>   Al Muick, CBRE

> 

> 

> John Poray <jporay at sbe.org> wrote:

>   Can anyone on the SBE Roundtable offer an opinion to the audio problem

> described in the message below? The person asking the question is not a

> member of SBE and therefore not subscribed to the Roundtable so please reply

> off-line to him. admaker at ntelos.net

> 

> 

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> John Poray

> 

> *****************************************

> 

> John L. Poray, CAE

> 

> Executive Director

> 

> Society of Broadcast Engineers, Inc.

> 

> 9102 N. Meridian Street, Suite 150

> 

> Indianapolis, IN 46260 USA

> 

> Phone: (317) 846-9000 Fax:(317) 846-9120

> 

> jporay at sbe.org

> 

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Michael Holmes [mailto:admaker at ntelos.net]

> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:55 PM

> To: mclappe at sbe.org

> Subject: Request re signal processor difficulty

> 

> Sirs:

> 

> I am a radio commercial producer of 30 years experience.

> 

> I have a signal processor called an SPL (Sound Performance

> Laboratory, Germany) Vitalizer. It enhances audio signals with a

> combination of dynamic EQ, amplitude-controlled phase correction and

> harmonic filtering. The result is greatly enhanced transparency.

> 

> This device is used in recording studios, post-production

> facilities, and live sound reinforcement. It is advertised for these

> purposes plus as an enhancing device in broadcast facility audio chains.

> 

> For some reason, it distorts my commercials on the air, and has

> since I began using it. I hear no distortion whatsoever in my studio. I

> use its effect sparingly. I'm not overdriving anything, and people at the

> stations say that my MP3's sound wonderful in their monitors (internal, not

> off-air monitors, which exhibit the distortion to them as well). The

> company that manufactures this device is well-respected worldwide and has a

> good-sized range of audio products:

> 

> SPL Home: http://spl-usa.com/index.html

> 

> Vitalizer page: http://spl-usa.com/V_MK2/in_short.html

> 

> If it is possible, I would like to put this problem before your

> membership in the hope that someone has had experience with this device and

> can offer insight or solution to this difficulty.

> 

> I think it important to note that only someone familiar with

> this device will be able to address the issue. Again, my levels are good,

> and are identical with or without the device in the chain. With the device

> I get on-air distortion. Without I don't. To the best of my knowledge

> there are no other variables or differences. The stations report that

> in-house everything sounds fine.

> 

> Thanks very much!

> 

> Michael Holmes

> 

> admaker at ntelos.net

> 

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