[SBE] AM Seminar
Kent Winrich
kwinrich at gmail.com
Tue Feb 19 09:21:35 EST 2008
Radio-Guides AM Transmission seminar (it is a great one BTW went this last
September!) is usually held in conjunction with NAB Radio which this year is
in Austin, TX in September http://www.nabradioshow.com/.
Kent Winrich, K9EZ
BroadcastPro.Biz
Raleigh, NC
BAE Systems
Ft Bragg, NC
On Feb 18, 2008 5:01 PM, Barry Thomas <barryt at barryt.org> wrote:
> I'm not aware of one. You might want to check the RadioGuide web site to
> be sure.
>
> The NAB is holding an AM Directional Antenna seminar at their headquarters
> in Washington, DC March 6-7.
>
>
> http://www.nab.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=NAB_AM_Directional_Antenna_Seminar1&Template=/TaggedPage/TaggedPageDisplay.cfm&TPLID=72&ContentID=11556
>
> Barry Thomas, CPBE CBNT
> Atlanta, GA
> barryt at sbe.org
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ron Baker <ronbaker.ron at gmail.com>
> To: barryt at sbe.org; sbe member discussion mail list <sbe at sbe.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:06:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [SBE] conversation topic: how often do you check tower ground
>
> When is the Radio Guide AM Transmission Seminar scheduled for the west
> coast?
>
>
> On 2/15/08, Barry Thomas, CPBE CBNT <barryt at sbe.org> wrote:
> Items like this is why the SBE list is such a great resource. Thanks for a
> comprehensive treatment, Phil.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dynotherm at earthlink.net
>
> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:33:01 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> To:barryt at sbe.org, sbe member discussion mail list <sbe at sbe.org>
> Subject: Re: [SBE] conversation topic: how often do you check tower ground
>
>
> While the systems are separate, they have the effect of the soil
> on copper in common, thus, to an extent, the deterioration of
> all buried copper will be somewhat similar.
>
> If the lightning dissipation/mitigation system is combined with
> the RF ground as may frequently be the case at the tower base(s),
> the condition of the gaps and the lower gap connection to the
> common ring tie is generally indicative of damage, however,
> careful examination of the ATU components is also critical in
> this event. Not only can a strike blow capacitors, it can
> reform coils, sometimes in a spectacular way.
>
> The corrosion life of buried copper varies widely as it is
> essentially a function of soil chemistry. I have seen radial
> systems 60 years old where the finish of the wire had only
> evolved from bright copper to heavy brown (CuO) patina. OTOH
> I have a very few systems turning brittle blue in less than
> ten years.
>
> The difference can usually be found by looking at soil pH,
> chloride, nitrate and ammonium content. When a new system
> is put into cropland care should be taken to bring the pH
> into the mildly alkaline range. If the soil has been heavily
> fertilized, a small sample plot of 1/4 to 1/2 acre should
> be ripped, deeply plowed, pH adjusted (generally by liming)
> and analyzed again a little below the burial depth.
>
> If ammonium or chloride radicals remain present in excessive
> amounts, it should be understood that the radial system will
> be a high maintenance item requiring annual inspection. At
> this point it may be wise to consider an alternative site or
> elevated counterpoise.
>
> If the test plot treatment shows an acceptable result the
> entire area should be conditioned in the same way before
> burying copper (or other metals).
>
> However, most sites in inland areas such as unfertilized
> pasture or grazing land or adequately conditioned cropland
> may not require replacement literally for generations.
>
> One clue pointing to possible ground system deterioration is
> an appearance of base current drift with changing soil moisture
> conditions. Another is an apparent long term shift in base
> impedance. In both cases, the ground system is suspect, however
> the tower(s) may be the cause if not well bonded at section
> joints (usually by tack welding). If either of these conditions
> appears, the tower(s) should be checked and bonded if this has
> not been previously done.
>
> If the condition persists, radials can be checked using a
> "sniffer" coil as the external antenna of a FIM. This is
> simply a loop coil of several turns 4 to 6 inches in diameter
> mounted on the end of a broomstick connected with about 6 feet
> of RG-58 and a BNC connector to the FIM's external input.
> Moving the "sniffer" over the ground about 45 degrees out
> from the tower and comparing results over each radial will
> clearly show low induced current in bad radials. One caution
> is that this process can show a false good reading when a radial
> is broken near the tower. If broken radials are found, it is
> wise to check radials by other means such as end to end
> resistance at adjacent outer ends, or with a clamp-on RFA
> such as was described earlier in this thread.
>
> Unless there is traffic over the radial system on unimproved
> roads or paths, or cattle graze the site, it is unnecessary
> to check the radials of a system in good soil more often than
> every five or ten years unless abnormal operation is suspected.
>
> However, if the soil conditions are poor, annual inspections
> should be scheduled. The inspection should be electrical, as above,
> for broken radials, and mechanical for visible signs of corrosion
> by digging up the ends of a few radials selected at random and
> visually observing their condition. Visually, good wire will be
> flexible, not brittle, and brown, not blue-green. Cleaning with
> sandpaper or steel wool should reveal uniform, unpitted, bright
> copper. Pitting, bluish color or brittle conditions are all
> indicators of deterioration or failure, however the system will
> have a degree of function as long as a low resistance metallic
> path remains.
>
> Where cattle graze over a ground system, or where farming or
> other vehicles travel over the system on unimproved paths,
> annual inspection for broken radials in the affected areas
> is essential and consideration to deeper than normal burial
> should be considered.
>
> Ground systems and their performance in transmission systems
> are one of the topics we cover in the Radio Guide AM Transmission
> Seminars.
>
> --------------------------
> Phil Alexander, CSRE , AMD
> Broadcast Engineering Services and Technology
> (a Div. of Advanced Parts Corporation)
> Ph. (317) 335-2065 FAX (317) 335-9037
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Barry Thomas, CPBE CBNT <barryt at sbe.org>
> >Sent: Feb 14, 2008 2:22 PM
> >To: A9xw at cs.com, Barry Thomas <barryt at sbe.org>, Member Discussion List <
> SBE at sbe.org>
> >Subject: Re: [SBE] conversation topic: how often do you check tower
> >ground
> >
> >The two systems would have different characteristics and purposes
> >and therefore different inspection schedules and procedures.
> >
> >For electrical and lightning grounds, they should be inspected after
> >every known electrical event. I used to physically check during
> >weekly transmitter inspections. I've usually not done a more indepth
> >analysis unless there is an increase in storm or electrical damage.
> >
> >For antenna radials. The system performance usually degrades which
> >will initiate inspection but I typically do a full inspection every
> >2-3 years if the antenna system is stable.
> >
> >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: A9xw at cs.com
> >
> >Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:12:38
> >To:barryt at sbe.org
> >Subject: Re: [SBE] conversation topic: how often do you check
> >tower ground
> >
> >
> >We're discussing ground system life, how often to check,
> >maintenance intervals, etc. Both radial and rods.
> >
> > Henry
>
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