[SBE] Who is Radiotime.com?

[David R. Wilson]

That would be a problem.

Dave



On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 11:19 -0700, Ron Castro wrote:

> Again, they are stripping our banner ads and putting in their own without 

> any compensation to us.

> 

>          Ron Castro

>  Chief Technical Officer

>     Results Radio, LLC

>                N6IE

>       www.N6IE.com

> 

> 

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "David R. Wilson" <david at wwns.com>

> To: "sbe member discussion mail list" <sbe at sbe.org>

> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:15 AM

> Subject: Re: [SBE] Who is Radiotime.com?

> 

> 

> > If all they do is point to your streaming provider and your streaming

> > provider is doing all of the accounting, then I don't see a problem.

> > The only time I could imagine a problem is if someone is taking the

> > stream and repeating it elsewhere without any accounting being done for

> > each listener.

> >

> > Dave

> >

> > On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 07:12 -0500, Urban, Brian L wrote:

> >> We looked at what Radiotime.com is doing with KUT’s stream.  Their

> >> player points to our regular stream (served by StreamGuys).  I don’t

> >> know what the University’s legal folks think of this; I passed the

> >> whole thing to management and are letting them deal with it.

> >>

> >> Since, in our case, Realtime is redirecting to our stream server,

> >> doesn’t that eliminate  the RIAA/Sound Exchange problem?  In fact, if

> >> it is only a pointer to your regular stream, is there any legal issue

> >> at all?

> >>

> >> -- 

> >> Brian Urban

> >> Chief Operator

> >> KUT Radio

> >> The University of Texas at Austin

> >> TEL 512-471-1085

> >>

> >> On 10/23/08 4:15 PM, "David R. Wilson" <david at wwns.com> wrote:

> >>

> >>         Although there are certainly some advantages of someone else

> >>         repeating

> >>         your audio (let them pay for the bandwidth and hardware) that

> >>         is

> >>         probably not a good idea.  The problem with someone else

> >>         streaming your

> >>         audio is one that the RIAA and SoundExchange would be happy to

> >>         address.

> >>         They are expecting a payment for performances.  If someone

> >>         else is

> >>         streaming your audio they probably won't get that payment.

> >>

> >>         My .02 worth (Is that 60 seconds worth of streaming time?).

> >>

> >>         Dave

> >>

> >>         David R. Wilson

> >>         Engineer for the Cromwell Group

> >>         Nashville Tennessee

> >>         WBUZ WPRT WQZQ

> >>

> >>

> >>         On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 11:48 -0500, Christopher Tarr wrote:

> >>         > We're actually happy that Radiotime is doing it.

> >>         >

> >>         >

> >>         > They have a great iPhone app that offers streams from all

> >>         over.  It

> >>         > includes our logo, and information on the station/DJ.  Our

> >>         opinion is

> >>         > that since we offer the stream for free through our site,

> >>         why not have

> >>         > people use that like elsewhere if it means being able to

> >>         stream our

> >>         > stations on a variety of devices.  It creates plenty of

> >>         goodwill, and

> >>         > even more ears.

> >>         >

> >>         >

> >>         > I would say that instead of involving attorneys and riot-act

> >>         reading,

> >>         > take a look at the benefits.  If you don't see any, then

> >>         politely ask

> >>         > them to take the links down.  It's been great for us and our

> >>         > listeners.

> >>         >

> >>         >

> >>         >

> >>         > On Oct 23, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Ron Castro wrote:

> >>         >

> >>         > > I did a Google search on one of my radio stations earlier

> >>         this week

> >>         > > and found that my Liquid Compass Internet stream was being

> >>         pirated

> >>         > > by some outfit called Radiotime.com.  Further

> >>         investigation found

> >>         > > that they were re-streaming all 12 of our stations even

> >>         though they

> >>         > > never asked or got permission!  Does anyone know anything

> >>         about

> >>         > > these guys?  I haven't called them yet to "read them the

> >>         riot act"

> >>         > > and I have not yet contacted our attorney...I just wanted

> >>         to hear

> >>         > > what other folks in the industry have to say.

> >>         > >

> >>         > >          Ron Castro

> >>         > >  Chief Technical Officer

> >>         > >     Results Radio, LLC

> >>         > >                N6IE

> >>         > >       www.N6IE.com

> >>         > >

> >>         > >

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