[SBE] Who is Radiotime.com?

[Ron Castro]

Again, they are stripping our banner ads and putting in their own without 
any compensation to us.

         Ron Castro
 Chief Technical Officer
    Results Radio, LLC
               N6IE
      www.N6IE.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David R. Wilson" <david at wwns.com>
To: "sbe member discussion mail list" <sbe at sbe.org>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [SBE] Who is Radiotime.com?



> If all they do is point to your streaming provider and your streaming

> provider is doing all of the accounting, then I don't see a problem.

> The only time I could imagine a problem is if someone is taking the

> stream and repeating it elsewhere without any accounting being done for

> each listener.

>

> Dave

>

> On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 07:12 -0500, Urban, Brian L wrote:

>> We looked at what Radiotime.com is doing with KUT’s stream.  Their

>> player points to our regular stream (served by StreamGuys).  I don’t

>> know what the University’s legal folks think of this; I passed the

>> whole thing to management and are letting them deal with it.

>>

>> Since, in our case, Realtime is redirecting to our stream server,

>> doesn’t that eliminate  the RIAA/Sound Exchange problem?  In fact, if

>> it is only a pointer to your regular stream, is there any legal issue

>> at all?

>>

>> -- 

>> Brian Urban

>> Chief Operator

>> KUT Radio

>> The University of Texas at Austin

>> TEL 512-471-1085

>>

>> On 10/23/08 4:15 PM, "David R. Wilson" <david at wwns.com> wrote:

>>

>>         Although there are certainly some advantages of someone else

>>         repeating

>>         your audio (let them pay for the bandwidth and hardware) that

>>         is

>>         probably not a good idea.  The problem with someone else

>>         streaming your

>>         audio is one that the RIAA and SoundExchange would be happy to

>>         address.

>>         They are expecting a payment for performances.  If someone

>>         else is

>>         streaming your audio they probably won't get that payment.

>>

>>         My .02 worth (Is that 60 seconds worth of streaming time?).

>>

>>         Dave

>>

>>         David R. Wilson

>>         Engineer for the Cromwell Group

>>         Nashville Tennessee

>>         WBUZ WPRT WQZQ

>>

>>

>>         On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 11:48 -0500, Christopher Tarr wrote:

>>         > We're actually happy that Radiotime is doing it.

>>         >

>>         >

>>         > They have a great iPhone app that offers streams from all

>>         over.  It

>>         > includes our logo, and information on the station/DJ.  Our

>>         opinion is

>>         > that since we offer the stream for free through our site,

>>         why not have

>>         > people use that like elsewhere if it means being able to

>>         stream our

>>         > stations on a variety of devices.  It creates plenty of

>>         goodwill, and

>>         > even more ears.

>>         >

>>         >

>>         > I would say that instead of involving attorneys and riot-act

>>         reading,

>>         > take a look at the benefits.  If you don't see any, then

>>         politely ask

>>         > them to take the links down.  It's been great for us and our

>>         > listeners.

>>         >

>>         >

>>         >

>>         > On Oct 23, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Ron Castro wrote:

>>         >

>>         > > I did a Google search on one of my radio stations earlier

>>         this week

>>         > > and found that my Liquid Compass Internet stream was being

>>         pirated

>>         > > by some outfit called Radiotime.com.  Further

>>         investigation found

>>         > > that they were re-streaming all 12 of our stations even

>>         though they

>>         > > never asked or got permission!  Does anyone know anything

>>         about

>>         > > these guys?  I haven't called them yet to "read them the

>>         riot act"

>>         > > and I have not yet contacted our attorney...I just wanted

>>         to hear

>>         > > what other folks in the industry have to say.

>>         > >

>>         > >          Ron Castro

>>         > >  Chief Technical Officer

>>         > >     Results Radio, LLC

>>         > >                N6IE

>>         > >       www.N6IE.com

>>         > >

>>         > >

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