[SBE] Suits

[Henry M. Seiden]

Sometimes, you can't get a unanimous decision. Better over than under.  
Here's a true story.

Talk about under, I worked with a guy that would wear shorts and no  
shirt to climb the 100' MW tower in front of the studio on a warm day  
because he knew he was being watched (by all the girls). He was, and  
the GM, who called him on it. It was irrelevant whether the GM was  
male or female, so I won't say.

In the end, everybody had a good laugh over it at the time when it was  
over (it didn't happen again). But those may have been different,  
simpler times. My point however, he was already hired, knew the  
situation, thought he was playing with people's heads. I mention this  
not to be sexist, nor advocate his actions, rather to embellish the  
adage, "Know your audience!"

You may not get away with it.

Henry S.

On Nov 2, 2008, at 01:52 , Dan Mammone wrote:


>

> 2 years ago, I was flown in for an interview and met with the DoE  

> and VP of

> Tech Operations [DoE's boss]. I wore a suit... The VP said I was

> overdressed, and the DoE said it's good to know that you're not  

> afraid to

> wear a suit when appropriate.

>

> Dan Mammone CBRE, CBNT

> Broadcast Engineer

> WMCO-FM/MCTV6

> Muskingum College

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: sbe-bounces at sbe.org [mailto:sbe-bounces at sbe.org] On Behalf Of  

> Bob

> Reite

> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 1:54 AM

> To: sbe member discussion mail list

> Subject: Re: [SBE] Suits

>

> I remember when soliciting one of my first contracts that I went in  

> suit

> and tie to impress.  I got the contract, but the GM said we expect you

> to get dirty, so come to work in jeans or other clothing that you  

> don't

> mind getting messed up.

>

> Henry M. Seiden wrote:

>> If I'm doing installation work anywhere, I wear the appropriate  

>> clothing

>> for that job and no one seems to have a problem.

>>

>> If meeting in an office environment however, I dress to fit in. If I

>> don't know what their clothing / dress code is (example: manager wear

>> suits, worker-bees wear office casual, etc.) then a tie, business  

>> slacks

>> and business shoes.

>>

>> General rule- dress for the people you are going to be meeting or a

>> small step up to impress.

>>

>> Henry S.

>> On Nov 1, 2008, at 10:29 , chscherer at everestkc.net wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> I often hear complaints that engineers are not given the respect  

>>> they

>>> deserve. It starts with the individual. It's true that business  

>>> casual

>>> dress is accepted in many offices now, although there are times when

>>> it is appropriate to wear a suit. If you look like a janitor  

>>> you'll be

>>> treated as a janitor.

>>>

>>> We are also all aware that wearing a suit to fix the transmitter  

>>> makes

>>> no sense either. You might need to change your clothes during the  

>>> day

>>> depending on the tasks that day. I have a friend who keeps  

>>> disposable

>>> coveralls on hand when he has to get dirty. He wears a tie to work

>>> every day.

>>>

>>> For some, the heavy-work attire may be acceptable. For others,

>>> dressing like the other managers may be essential to earning  

>>> respect.

>>>

>>>

>>> From: Cowboy <curt at spam-o-matic.net>

>>>> And I'd disagree !

>>>>

>>>> They look like high-dollar, professional, front office engineers.

>>>> Too many of us look like low-dollar, back shop, handy-men too  

>>>> often.

>>>> Just an opinion..........

>>>> ( ask your favorite successful salesman )

>>>

>>>

>>>> Jon Frank wrote:

>>>>> I love those guys in the suits.  They look like they work at a

>>>> funeral home.

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