[SBE] Looking for possible interference when siting a dish --

Bill Burckhard billb at khmt.com
Thu Feb 26 14:47:41 EST 2009


We had intermittent interference here for a long time. It was only on one
transponder. We finally figured out that the fast food restaurant next door
had a leaky microwave oven!



William R Burckhard

445 South 24th Street West

Billings, MT. 59102

(406)652-4743

billb at khmt.com

www.yourbigsky.com

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From: sbe-bounces at sbe.org [mailto:sbe-bounces at sbe.org] On Behalf Of Edwin
Bukont
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [SBE] Looking for possible interference when siting a dish --



Radar detectors and some vehicle anti-collision systems also apparently can
cause issues. TV station here went nuts with that problem until someone
noticed it only happened when one particular car parked in front of the dish
at the perimeter fence.

Edwin Bukont CSRE, DRB, CBNT
Comm-Struction and Services LLC
Baltimore/Washington DC
V- 410.879.5567 F- 410.272.5750 C- 240.417.2475

A Harris Broadcast Channel Partner

The opposite of PROgress is CONgress





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From: mlangner at swcp.com
To: sbe at sbe.org
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:31:08 -0700
Subject: [SBE] Looking for possible interference when siting a dish --

Hello all !!



Potential C-band interference thread --



All good answers.



"Out here in the west" before we site a dish we do an RF survey of the site.



Usually we use a sheet-metal horn and a spare LNB from the shelf hooked into
a spectrum analyzer.



Since this microwave stuff bounces so well, even if you have a company do a
search for terrestrial microwave paths, you likely wouldn't find out about
the bounces off tall buildings, etc.



Another not uncommon C-band interference source impossible to predict -- but
that you can measure -- is certain kinds of radar altimeters from aircraft.



Here in Albuquerque, NM, one station's "look" goes right across the approach
to Albuquerque International Sunport (Airport) for planes landing headed
east. Made us crazy several years ago, since it was so intermittent. But
one day a staff member was listening to the air signal outdoors, and
observed it disappearing as a Southwest Airlines plane was right in line!



A passive C-band filter ahead of the LNB "fixed" the problem.



Still, one TV station here several years ago had no option but to shield its
receive dish. They shielded it, all right! They dug a 10 foot deep hole in
their back parking lot and stuck the dish down in the ground. Poof! No
more TI (terrestrial interference.)



You can also get absorptive panels with with to ring your dish if you have
TI coming in pretty far "off axis."



Last I knew we shared out C-band allocation with Ma Bell and whatever
carriers have come along since.



Moral of our little story? Ya gotta measure it! Then license it to protect
yourself from new potential TI problems as the spectrum continues to get
more and more users.



Good luck !



Mike Langner, CPBE

Albuquerque, NM

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