[SBE] Translator Sources

Benedict, Raymond C rcbenedict at cbs.com
Wed Apr 15 13:48:56 EDT 2009


So, do they comply with:

³Without significantly altering any characteristics of the incoming signal²
?


On 4/15/09 1:41 PM, "Ron Castro" <ronc at sonic.net> wrote:


> Not necessarily. Read this article from today's Radio Journal:

>

> "Translators make headlines in Atlanta. When "Streetz 102.9" appeared without

> warning on FM radios in Atlanta last week, the market was abuzz with

> speculation ­ was this a pirate of some sort, or a surprise move-in? It was

> neither: in fact, it was 170-watt translator W275BK, Decatur, GA (102.9),

> recently sold by Radio Assist Ministry to Extreme Media Group for a whopping

> $230,000. And the programming being heard there was coming from the HD2

> channel of Clear Channel¹s WWVA-FM, Canton, GA (105.7). That HD subchannel was

> being leased apparently by two former Radio One executives, who spotted a

> clever way to squeeze a brand-new station on to the Atlanta dial for a

> fraction of the cost of buying a full-power signal. But "Streetz" didn¹t last

> long ­ it went silent last week, not because of FCC issues but because Radio

> One reportedly filed suit against its operators over contract issues.

> Meanwhile, Atlanta¹s existing broadcasters are playing the translator game,

> too ­ Cumulus recently traded a full-power signal in Albany, GA to that same

> "Extreme Media Group" in exchange for translator W250BC, Riverdale, GA (97.9),

> which recently began testing from the big Richland Towers master FM site on

> Briarcliff Road. That translator, too, is expected to begin relaying an HD2

> subchannel ­ in this case, the one that¹s carrying the old "99X" modern rock

> format that used to be heard on WNNX, Atlanta."

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> In addition, a well-known DC attorney who owns a translator has been using it

> to carry and HD2 signal for several months with no rebuke from the FCC.

>

> Ron Castro

> Chief Technical Officer

> Results Radio, LLC

> N6IE

> www.N6IE.com <http://www.N6IE.com>

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>>

>> From: Benedict, Raymond C <mailto:rcbenedict at cbs.com>

>>

>> To: Vic Jester <mailto:vjester at mindspring.com> ; sbe member discussion mail

>> list <mailto:sbe at sbe.org> ; Ralph Beaver <mailto:bevo at mediaalert.com>

>>

>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:27 AM

>>

>> Subject: Re: [SBE] Translator Sources

>>

>>

>> Translators can only:

>>

>> § 74.1201 Definitions.

>>

>> (a) FM translator. A station in the broadcasting service operated for

>> the purpose of retransmitting the signals of an FM radio broadcast

>> station or another FM broadcast translator station without

>> significantly altering any characteristics of the incoming signal other

>> than its frequency and amplitude, in order to provide FM broadcast

>> service to the general public.

>>

>>

>> So it appears that translators must transmit the analog signal too if they

>> are to carry IBOC.

>>

>> On 4/15/09 1:14 PM, "Vic Jester" <vjester at mindspring.com> wrote:

>>

>>

>>> Right- but that doesn't always indicate which program is on it.

>>> Translators can be used with, for instance, any of the multi-cast channels

>>> of an FM. Looking for a way to track what program is on which translator

>>> in a given market... Thanks

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> >From: Ralph Beaver <bevo at mediaalert.com>

>>>> >Sent: Apr 15, 2009 1:03 PM

>>>> >To: Vic Jester <vjester at mindspring.com>, sbe member discussion mail list

>>>> <sbe at sbe.org>

>>>> >Subject: Re: [SBE] Translator Sources

>>>> >

>>>> >Using:

>>>> >

>>>> >http://fccinfo.com/

>>>> >

>>>> >Translators will have call signs which are a different format from

>>>> >main stations. I just pulled up Phoenix AZ and found K224CJ

>>>> >(translator for KHOT), K205CI (translator for KEAR) and so on.

>>>> >

>>>> >Beaver

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >At 12:16 PM 4/15/2009, you wrote:

>>>>> >>Does anyone know of a database that shows the station affiliation or

>>>>> >>program source for translators?

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >>Thanks

>>>>> >>Vic

>>>>> >>

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