[SBE] Translator Sources

[Francis Martin]

There are a few translators that pass both the analog and HD content of an original signal, if available, notably the ones from Larcan and Fanfare FM.
http://www.fanfarefm.com
This sort of equipment fulfills the requirement of  not altering the characteristics of the incoming signal, if a digital (HD) component is involved.

-fm-

--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Benedict, Raymond C <rcbenedict at cbs.com> wrote:

From: Benedict, Raymond C <rcbenedict at cbs.com>
Subject: Re: [SBE] Translator Sources
To: "Ron Castro" <ronc at sonic.net>, "sbe member discussion mail list" <sbe at sbe.org>
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 10:48 AM



Re: [SBE] Translator Sources
So, do they comply with:



“Without significantly altering any  characteristics of the incoming signal” ?





On 4/15/09 1:41 PM, "Ron Castro" <ronc at sonic.net> wrote:



Not necessarily.  Read this article from today's Radio Journal:

 

"Translators make headlines in Atlanta. When "Streetz 102.9" appeared without warning on FM radios in Atlanta last week, the market was abuzz with speculation – was this a pirate of some sort, or a surprise move-in? It was neither: in fact, it was 170-watt translator W275BK, Decatur, GA (102.9), recently sold by Radio Assist Ministry to Extreme Media Group for a whopping $230,000. And the programming being heard there was coming from the HD2 channel of Clear Channel’s WWVA-FM, Canton, GA (105.7). That HD subchannel was being leased apparently by two former Radio One executives, who spotted a clever way to squeeze a brand-new station on to the Atlanta dial for a fraction of the cost of buying a full-power signal. But "Streetz" didn’t last long – it went silent last week, not because of FCC issues but because Radio One reportedly filed suit against its operators over contract issues. Meanwhile, Atlanta’s existing broadcasters are playing the
 translator game, too – Cumulus recently traded a full-power signal in Albany, GA to that same "Extreme Media Group" in exchange for translator W250BC, Riverdale, GA (97.9), which recently began testing from the big Richland Towers master FM site on Briarcliff Road. That translator, too, is expected to begin relaying an HD2 subchannel – in this case, the one that’s carrying the old "99X" modern rock format that used to be heard on WNNX, Atlanta."



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In addition, a well-known DC attorney who owns a translator has been using it to carry and HD2 signal for several months with no rebuke from the FCC.



           Ron Castro

  Chief Technical Officer

     Results Radio, LLC

                N6IE

       www.N6IE.com <http://www.N6IE.com> 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

 

From:  Benedict, Raymond  C <mailto:rcbenedict at cbs.com>  

 

To: Vic Jester <mailto:vjester at mindspring.com>  ; sbe member discussion mail list <mailto:sbe at sbe.org>  ; Ralph Beaver <mailto:bevo at mediaalert.com>   

 

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:27  AM

 

Subject: Re: [SBE] Translator  Sources

 



Translators can only:



§   74.1201    Definitions.



   (a) FM translator. A station  in the broadcasting service operated for

   the purpose of  retransmitting the signals of an FM radio  broadcast

   station or another FM broadcast translator  station without

   significantly altering any  characteristics of the incoming signal other

   than its  frequency and amplitude, in order to provide FM  broadcast

   service to the general  public.





 So it appears that translators must transmit  the analog signal too if they are to carry  IBOC.



On 4/15/09 1:14  PM, "Vic Jester" <vjester at mindspring.com>  wrote:



 

Right- but that doesn't always indicate which  program is on it.  Translators can be used with, for instance, any of  the multi-cast channels of an FM.  Looking for a way to track what  program is on which translator in a given market...   Thanks







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>From: Ralph  Beaver <bevo at mediaalert.com>



>Sent: Apr 15,  2009 1:03 PM



>To: Vic Jester <vjester at mindspring.com>, sbe member  discussion mail list <sbe at sbe.org>



>Subject: Re: [SBE] Translator  Sources



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>Using:



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>http://fccinfo.com/



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>Translators  will have call signs which are a different format from



>main stations.   I just pulled up Phoenix AZ and found K224CJ



>(translator for  KHOT),  K205CI (translator for KEAR) and so  on.



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>Beaver



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>At 12:16 PM  4/15/2009, you wrote:



>>Does anyone know of a database that shows  the station affiliation or



>>program source for  translators?



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>>Thanks



>>Vic



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