[SBE] Translator Sources

Benedict, Raymond C rcbenedict at cbs.com
Wed Apr 15 15:24:37 EDT 2009

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Yes it does. And then there are those that are modulating an FM analog
transmitter with the audio from an HD signal.

On 4/15/09 2:03 PM, "Francis Martin" <ednixon at yahoo.com> wrote:

> There are a few translators that pass both the analog and HD content of an

> original signal, if available, notably the ones from Larcan and Fanfare FM.

> http://www.fanfarefm.com

> This sort of equipment fulfills the requirement of not altering the

> characteristics of the incoming signal, if a digital (HD) component is

> involved.

>

> -fm-

>

> --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Benedict, Raymond C <rcbenedict at cbs.com> wrote:

>>

>> From: Benedict, Raymond C <rcbenedict at cbs.com>

>> Subject: Re: [SBE] Translator Sources

>> To: "Ron Castro" <ronc at sonic.net>, "sbe member discussion mail list"

>> <sbe at sbe.org>

>> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 10:48 AM

>>

>> Re: [SBE] Translator Sources So, do they comply with:

>>

>> ³Without significantly altering any characteristics of the incoming signal²

>> ?

>>

>>

>> On 4/15/09 1:41 PM, "Ron Castro" <ronc at sonic.net> wrote:

>>

>>> Not necessarily. Read this article from today's Radio Journal:

>>>

>>> "Translators make headlines in Atlanta. When "Streetz 102.9" appeared

>>> without warning on FM radios in Atlanta last week, the market was abuzz with

>>> speculation was this a pirate of some sort, or a surprise move-in? It was

>>> neither: in fact, it was 170-watt translator W275BK, Decatur, GA (102.9),

>>> recently sold by Radio Assist Ministry to Extreme Media Group for a whopping

>>> $230,000. And the programming being heard there was coming from the HD2

>>> channel of Clear Channel¹s WWVA-FM, Canton, GA (105.7). That HD subchannel

>>> was being leased apparently by two former Radio One executives, who spotted

>>> a clever way to squeeze a brand-new station on to the Atlanta dial for a

>>> fraction of the cost of buying a full-power signal. But "Streetz" didn¹t

>>> last long it went silent last week, not because of FCC issues but because

>>> Radio One reportedly filed suit against its operators over contract issues.

>>> Meanwhile, Atlanta¹s existing broadcasters are playing the translator game,

>>> too Cumulus recently traded a full-power signal in Albany, GA to that same

>>> "Extreme Media Group" in exchange for translator W250BC, Riverdale, GA

>>> (97.9), which recently began testing from the big Richland Towers master FM

>>> site on Briarcliff Road. That translator, too, is expected to begin relaying

>>> an HD2 subchannel in this case, the one that¹s carrying the old "99X"

>>> modern rock format that used to be heard on WNNX, Atlanta."

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>

>>> In addition, a well-known DC attorney who owns a translator has been using

>>> it to carry and HD2 signal for several months with no rebuke from the FCC.

>>>

>>> Ron Castro

>>> Chief Technical Officer

>>> Results Radio, LLC

>>> N6IE

>>> www.N6IE.com <http://www.N6IE.com>

>>>>

>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>>

>>>> From: Benedict, Raymond C <mailto:rcbenedict at cbs.com

>>>> </mc/compose?to=rcbenedict at cbs.com> >

>>>>

>>>> To: Vic Jester <mailto:vjester at mindspring.com

>>>> </mc/compose?to=vjester at mindspring.com> > ; sbe member discussion mail

>>>> list <mailto:sbe at sbe.org </mc/compose?to=sbe at sbe.org> > ; Ralph Beaver

>>>> <mailto:bevo at mediaalert.com </mc/compose?to=bevo at mediaalert.com> >

>>>>

>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:27 AM

>>>>

>>>> Subject: Re: [SBE] Translator Sources

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Translators can only:

>>>>

>>>> § 74.1201 Definitions.

>>>>

>>>> (a) FM translator. A station in the broadcasting service operated for

>>>> the purpose of retransmitting the signals of an FM radio broadcast

>>>> station or another FM broadcast translator station without

>>>> significantly altering any characteristics of the incoming signal other

>>>> than its frequency and amplitude, in order to provide FM broadcast

>>>> service to the general public.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> So it appears that translators must transmit the analog signal too if

>>>> they are to carry IBOC.

>>>>

>>>> On 4/15/09 1:14 PM, "Vic Jester" <vjester at mindspring.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Right- but that doesn't always indicate which program is on it.

>>>>> Translators can be used with, for instance, any of the multi-cast

>>>>> channels of an FM. Looking for a way to track what program is on which

>>>>> translator in a given market... Thanks

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>>> >From: Ralph Beaver <bevo at mediaalert.com>

>>>>>> >Sent: Apr 15, 2009 1:03 PM

>>>>>> >To: Vic Jester <vjester at mindspring.com>, sbe member discussion mail

>>>>>> list <sbe at sbe.org>

>>>>>> >Subject: Re: [SBE] Translator Sources

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >Using:

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >http://fccinfo.com/

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >Translators will have call signs which are a different format from

>>>>>> >main stations. I just pulled up Phoenix AZ and found K224CJ

>>>>>> >(translator for KHOT), K205CI (translator for KEAR) and so on.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >Beaver

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >At 12:16 PM 4/15/2009, you wrote:

>>>>>>> >>Does anyone know of a database that shows the station affiliation or

>>>>>>> >>program source for translators?

>>>>>>> >>

>>>>>>> >>Thanks

>>>>>>> >>Vic

>>>>>>> >>

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