[SBE] FCC R & R 73.318: FM Blanketing Interference

[Jeremy Morris]

A government agency being held responsible for their own ineptitude?  Good
luck with that.  Perhaps if they spent less time, effort, and money in their
crazy security at FCC headquarters in DC, they might be able to do their
job.  I've done a lot of service calls there and you'd think those guys
actually had a clue about any device that plugs into a wall.

Just my perspective on dealing with the FCC...
Jeremy

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:38 PM, jer hill <jerhil at verizon.net> wrote:


> I tell people that the FCC rules require that their speakers, computers,

> audio amps etc. have to be somewhat immune to radio station energy but they

> didn't think to mandate an RF immunity level of protection standard that

> would have included the situation for when you live in the neighborhood of

> an AM or FM radio transmitter. So this makes it the FCC's fault and I am

> going to try to help you fix what they should have never allowed the

> manufacturer to get away with in the first place!

>

> -Jer

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: sbe-bounces at sbe.org [mailto:sbe-bounces at sbe.org] On Behalf Of Dennis

> Sloatman

> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:20 PM

> To: 'sbe member discussion mail list'

> Subject: Re: [SBE] FCC R & R 73.318: FM Blanketing Interference

>

> Thanks, Chriss.

>

> This is the sort of thing every engineer dreads dealing with.  The engineer

> (who often has no management or interpersonal skills training whatsoever)

> is

> thrust into potentially volatile situations with liability exposure (see my

> previous responses to emails and my thoughts on liability).  It seems to me

> many in our business, management AND we engineers, often do not take that

> into consideration.

>

> You raise an excellent point when you said: "Would it be cheaper and

> quicker

> to purchase for the neighbor another set of PC speakers or a new telephone

> to eliminate the problem? Possibly."  Yes, it would be, but as is often the

> case, you may find yourself dealing with an intransigent complainant who

> takes the "why should I have to change my computer speakers because of your

> station being off-frequency and running over-power" (an quote from a real

> instance).  When I jokingly, with a big smile, replied that our transmitter

> could barely make the licensed power as it was, this led to the retort,

> "So,

> you admit you have problems, eh?"  It's funny, but the lesson of this is

> you

> have to choose your words as if you were on the witness stand in a trial.

>

> A lot of questions to be answered indeed and in my view, the FCC is vague

> on

> this rule (a new rule was proposed a few years ago to clarify the

> Blanketing

> Interference rule, but it's still not in the rules).

>

> We should write a comprehensive "toolbox" book on this when it's all over.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Dennis L Sloatman

> Sloatman Associates

> MCSE/CSRE/AMD/CBNT/CNE

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: sbe-bounces at sbe.org [mailto:sbe-bounces at sbe.org] On Behalf Of

> chscherer at everestkc.net

> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 2:25 PM

> To: sbe member discussion mail list

> Subject: Re: [SBE] FCC R & R 73.318: FM Blanketing Interference

>

> As was noted, the good neighbor approach is often the better course of

> action than strict adherance to the rule.

>

> Mike Langer noted installing ferrites in equipment. Like many solutions,

> this involves time and testing for success. Would it be cheaper and quicker

> to purchase for the neighbor another set of PC speakers or a new telephone

> to eliminate the problem? Possibly.

>

> As part of this discussion I would like to hear about specific products

> that

> have shown to be immune or resistant to RF blanketing.

>

>

> ============

> >From   Dennis Sloatman <dsloatman at sloatmanassociates.com>

> I am now, for the first time in a nearly forty-year career, dealing with FM

> RFI complaints from a new FM station facility (15kW ERP/ 400' HAAT).

>

> These complaints include demodulated audio in PC speakers, garage door

> openers that no longer work, as well as the customary "I can no longer pick

> up a station I used to hear that's 95 miles away," etc.  My experiences in

> this area have all been with AM stations as the facilities over the years

> I've had with FM have been operating from towers in wide-open farmland or

> in

> the swamps of Florida (I always seemed to be the C.E. for an AM  with its

> site located in densely-populated residential areas).  AM RFI in some

> respects, is easier to resolve inasmuch as good grounding can resolve most

> complaints.

>

> I'd like to hear of the experiences/solutions from all of you on this

> board.

> I believe sharing these would be of benefit to all of us.

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