[SBE] Hamnets Thread
Barry Thomas, CPBE CBNT
barryt at barryt.org
Tue May 10 13:30:07 EDT 2011
I was a little worried when I posted the question. I wanted to make sure were not giving a slight to our "authorized" SBE efforts and also put the new IRLP conversation into context for this poor non-ham.
The response was not what I expected. It was, in fact a very important and interesting thread showing an issue that may need some attention. We want to be inclusive and welcoming with all of our work. The Chapter of The Air can be a way to earn recert credit, a critical means to connect members who are not near in-person chapters (that description applies to so many of us), but it's also a way we teach people who we are!
Like our in person chapter meetings, this meeting should showcase the professional approach and problem-solving, get-it-done attitude that typifies the SBE member. To further demonstrate how SBE members are the best informed, best certified, most effective professionals in our industry! SBE members make media technology work!
I know that Vinny and John monitor this list but I'm copying this digest to both of them. I suspect this might be worth some discussion and attention by our chapter liaison or other board members.
Thanks so much for the candor and your input which makes our Society better!
Barry Thomas, CPBE CBNT
Atlanta, GA
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Barry,
From an experience one of my former engineers had with the person then
in charge of "Chapter of the Air", the reflector system is much more
inclusive. This engineer was told that if he was a broadcast engineer,
but not an Extra Class ham, he probably shouldn't call himself an engineer.
That kind of elitist attitude pretty well soured both of us. Instead of
giving a reason to upgrade it caused the opposite reaction in my case. I
have enough going on already, why take time to become one of "those guys".
Rod
On 5/9/2011 11:26 AM, Barry Thomas, CPBE CBNT wrote:
> Tom;
>
> Thanks for your post.
>
> For the non-hams on this list, what is your Hamnet on contrast or in
> respect to the SBE "Chapter of the Air?"
>
> http://www.sbe.org/sections/IRLP.php
>
>
>
> Barry Thomas, CPBE CBNT
> Atlanta, GA
> barryt at sbe.org
>
>
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> Subject: [SBE] Hams in Broadcast Net Sunday night at 8 PM ET
> To: Broadcast <broadcast at radiolists.net
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> If you're not watching anything exciting on the TV Sunday night,
> and you have your ham license, check in to the informal "Hams In
> Broadcast" net Sunday night, 8 PM ET (7 CT, 6 MT and 5 PT).
> We meet on the Great Lakes IRLP/Echolink Reflector. Dial up
> reflector 9615 on IRLP, or 96150 on Echolink. If you do not have
> an IRLP
> or Echolink node near you, you might look at installing Echolink
> on your
> home computer. The software is free.
>
> This reflector is open 24/7 for any amateur legal use
> pertaining to
> talking about broadcasting. If you are an engineer, a news person
> or an
> announcer, you are invited. There is more information at:
>
> http://glirlp.org/9615-broadcast/
>
> The net control should be Brew, WA2ZST, and we are looking for
> anyone with an interest in broadcasting to join us.
>
> Also keep in mind that on the 1st and 3rd Saturdays of each month,
> at 1
> PM ET, there is an official SBE "Chapter of the Air" net, hosted
> out of
> Denver, using this reflector.
>
> Any questions, please contact me.
>
> Very 73, de Tom Bosscher K8TB
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Rod:
There's always someone out there trying to "get your goat". Don't let a few grumpy idiots spoil an otherwise good hobby. When you have time to fool with it, element four is all of 50 not too hard multiple choice questions. I sure didn't feel "elite" after passing. It's just a more privileged learners permit!
Pat
wa4tuk
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Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 10:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [SBE] Hamnets
Barry,
>From an experience one of my former engineers had with the person then in charge of "Chapter of the Air", the reflector system is much more inclusive. This engineer was told that if he was a broadcast engineer, but not an Extra Class ham, he probably shouldn't call himself an engineer.
That kind of elitist attitude pretty well soured both of us. Instead of giving a reason to upgrade it caused the opposite reaction in my case. I have enough going on already, why take time to become one of "those guys".
Rod
On 5/9/2011 11:26 AM, Barry Thomas, CPBE CBNT wrote:
Tom;
Thanks for your post.
For the non-hams on this list, what is your Hamnet on contrast or in respect to the SBE "Chapter of the Air?"
http://www.sbe.org/sections/IRLP.php
Barry Thomas, CPBE CBNT
Atlanta, GA
barryt at sbe.org<mailto:barryt at sbe.org>
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If you're not watching anything exciting on the TV Sunday night,
and you have your ham license, check in to the informal "Hams In
Broadcast" net Sunday night, 8 PM ET (7 CT, 6 MT and 5 PT).
We meet on the Great Lakes IRLP/Echolink Reflector. Dial up
reflector 9615 on IRLP, or 96150 on Echolink. If you do not have an IRLP
or Echolink node near you, you might look at installing Echolink on your
home computer. The software is free.
This reflector is open 24/7 for any amateur legal use pertaining to
talking about broadcasting. If you are an engineer, a news person or an
announcer, you are invited. There is more information at:
http://glirlp.org/9615-broadcast/
The net control should be Brew, WA2ZST, and we are looking for
anyone with an interest in broadcasting to join us.
Also keep in mind that on the 1st and 3rd Saturdays of each month, at 1
PM ET, there is an official SBE "Chapter of the Air" net, hosted out of
Denver, using this reflector.
Any questions, please contact me.
Very 73, de Tom Bosscher K8TB
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Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 11:44:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: markf10355 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [SBE] Hamnets
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Rod - I share Rod's view below.
I also share your promotion of SBE nets on EchoLink, IRLP and how about D-STAR?
These of course are all accessable via a TECHNICIAN Ham license and are certainly more accessable to all so licensed hams.
For 20 years+ I was only a Tech Heavy (5 WPM) until the FCC obsoleted Morse Code altogther.
Now a proud EXTRA LITE (5WPM). All I operate is VHF/UHF and these VOIP nets.
I found the Extra theory test a mild challenge - in fact is has been SBE gradfathered as equivalent at the
CBT Level - same as the old First Class/Lifetime General FCC Operator's License.
That is quite a buit LESS than the SBE tests above the CBT!
So I vote for full VOIP net access to the SBE HamNet!
Mark Fehlig, P.E., CPBE, CBNT
WA6NGC
Atlanta
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From: Thompson, Pat <PTHOMPSON at WBIR.GANNETT.COM>
To: sbe member discussion mail list <sbe at sbe.org>
Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [SBE] Hamnets
Rod:
There?s always someone out there trying to ?get your goat?. Don?t let a few grumpy idiots spoil an otherwise good hobby. When you have time to fool with it, element four is all of 50 not too hard multiple choice questions. I sure didn?t feel ?elite? after passing. It?s just a more privileged learners permit!
Pat
wa4tuk
From: sbe-bounces at sbe.org [mailto:sbe-bounces at sbe.org] On Behalf Of R.V.Zeigler
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 10:26 AM
To: sbe member discussion mail list
Subject: Re: [SBE] Hamnets
Barry,
>From an experience one of my former engineers had with the person then in charge of "Chapter of the Air", the reflector system is much more inclusive. This engineer was told that if he was a broadcast engineer, but not an Extra Class ham, he probably shouldn't call himself an engineer.
That kind of elitist attitude pretty well soured both of us. Instead of giving a reason to upgrade it caused the opposite reaction in my case. I have enough going on already, why take time to become one of "those guys".
Rod
On 5/9/2011 11:26 AM, Barry Thomas, CPBE CBNT wrote:
Tom;
Thanks for your post.
For the non-hams on this list, what is your Hamnet on contrast or in respect to the SBE "Chapter of the Air?"
http://www.sbe.org/sections/IRLP.php
Barry Thomas, CPBE CBNT
Atlanta, GA
barryt at sbe.org
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1. Hams in Broadcast Net Sunday night at 8 PM ET (Tom Bosscher)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 20:02:24 -0400
From: Tom Bosscher <tom at bosscher.org>
Subject: [SBE] Hams in Broadcast Net Sunday night at 8 PM ET
To: Broadcast <broadcast at radiolists.net>, sbe member discussion mail
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If you're not watching anything exciting on the TV Sunday night,
and you have your ham license, check in to the informal "Hams In
Broadcast" net Sunday night, 8 PM ET (7 CT, 6 MT and 5 PT).
We meet on the Great Lakes IRLP/Echolink Reflector. Dial up
reflector 9615 on IRLP, or 96150 on Echolink. If you do not have an IRLP
or Echolink node near you, you might look at installing Echolink on your
home computer. The software is free.
This reflector is open 24/7 for any amateur legal use pertaining to
talking about broadcasting. If you are an engineer, a news person or an
announcer, you are invited. There is more information at:
http://glirlp.org/9615-broadcast/
The net control should be Brew, WA2ZST, and we are looking for
anyone with an interest in broadcasting to join us.
Also keep in mind that on the 1st and 3rd Saturdays of each month, at 1
PM ET, there is an official SBE "Chapter of the Air" net, hosted out of
Denver, using this reflector.
Any questions, please contact me.
Very 73, de Tom Bosscher K8TB
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