[Techtoolslist] The Age Old - "What Eprom Programmer should Iget"question

John Robertson jrr at flippers.com
Tue Nov 8 01:47:17 EST 2005


Hi Matt,

What result do you get when you try to read a truly 'blank' Eprom
(otherwise known as nothing in the test socket)? Perhaps that will
give you a clue...

John :-#)#

At 8:54 PM -0800 11/7/05, Matt Rossiter wrote:

>I just bought the Willem Eprom Programmer. I am hoping someone can

>help me out with a couple of easy questions about setup. I think

>the version I have is called "PCB3". I think this one has added

>support for earlier eproms like 2716 and 2732.

>

>Let's say I just want to do a simple blank check on a 2716 eprom.

>

>Step 1: Verify that it's blank on my Data I/O just to make sure. -

>Ok it's definitely blank.

>Step2: Connect the Willems eprom programmer to my computer using

>the Parallel port. Ok. All the lights are on and look good.

>Step3: Bring up the Software. Click Device -> EPROM -> 27XX -> 2716 - Ok

>Step4: Click the button that says "Willem" so that it changes to

>PCB3 (since that's the board I'm using) - OK

>Step5: Set the Jumper switches according to the diagram in the software - Ok

>Step6: Put in the chip and click "Blank Check"

>

>Am I missing any steps? I keep getting "Device not Empty"

>

>Furthermore if I read the eprom, store the data to a binary file and

>try to verify it with Romident it fails.

>

>Or if I load an eprom from a file and then compare it with a rom

>with the same code it fails. I've tried this with 2716, 2732,

>27c4001 and 27c010.

>So I think I must be doing something wrong.

>

>Could someone offer me some help?

>

>Thanks!

>

>Matt

>

>

>From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com

>[mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Karkula

>Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 5:50 PM

>To: Technical Tools Mail List

>Subject: RE: [Techtoolslist] The Age Old - "What Eprom Programmer

>should Iget"question

>

>I kept my workhorse Data I/O and bought one of those enhanced Willem

>programmers on ebay. Mine cost less than $70 when I bought it over

>a year ago. Works great on those larger eproms - I only use the

>Willem when the Data I/O is incapable of programming the device. I

>have an old 100Mhz Pentium laptop connected to my data I/o and to

>the willem and between the two programmers I am covered.

>

>Best Regards,

>

>Bill

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com

>[mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com]On Behalf Of Matt Rossiter

>Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:43 PM

>To: 'Technical Tools Mail List'

>Subject: [Techtoolslist] The Age Old - "What Eprom Programmer should

>I get"question

>I've been happy with my Data I/O 29b programmer for a long time. I

>especially like it because it does all the 82S proms that I need.

>Lately I've had a number of people asking me to program some of the

>27C4000 and 27C010 series eproms. I don't have the pinout cartridge

>to do those and I'm not sure if I feel like hunting one down.

>Even though I fix games on the side for fun and a little side cash,

>I'd like to get a nice eprom programmer (to program the newer,

>bigger eproms) - but not pay $Big Bucks$ for one.

>

>I don't want to spend much more than $350 for one so I was thinking

>of maybe the Needhams EMP-11

><http://www.needhams.com/products-emp11.html>http://www.needhams.com/products-emp11.html

>or maybe something that uses USB instead of parallel.

>

>What do you guys recommend?

>

>Thanks

>

>Matt

>

>

>

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