[Techtoolslist] Directory success !!! (for HDR that is.)

[Martin White]

I started for centipede once. I think I got all the ICs in but got bored after only a small amount of the connections. And I never really properly grasped the dividing up into functional blocks and scripting for those blocks properly. I found it hard to apply the examples to my case.

Sorry for the lack of punctuation. In a bar, using my phone :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Welburn
Sent: 12/12/2012 20:15
To: Technical Tools Mail List
Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Directory success !!! (for HDR that is.)

Because when you map a UUT (unit Under Test) netlist you need to tell it 
which part is in which location and how it is connected to every other 
IC on the PCB so that it can tell operators where to move in 
back-tracing a fault in GFI mode. (Guided Fault Isolation) Every device 
on the UUT needs describing, its I/O directions etc.. Fluke provides 
most TTL and basic discretes as you can see.

The 9100 is very comprehensive, if you have the time to enter an entire 
PCBs worth of chips, and how each node is connected, then write 
exerciser programs that cover every functional block (every IC) of the 
PCB, the 9100 will guide you to a fault 100% accurately.

However, the man-hours involved in entering all that information, and 
writing programs that exercise every chip on the PCB is way beyond 95% 
of people. Its totally uneconomical to do this for any arcade game PCB, 
as every game PCB is completely different

The GFI mode was intended more for production or high volume stuff. An 
engineer would spend a few months writing/entering all the info for *one 
single UUT* on a 9100A for example with an editing suite, then the 
program could be run on a 9105 or a 9100A without any editing suite. The 
target user would be a production operator who could let the 9100 guide 
them to the fault by instructing them to clip and probe here and there 
and provide fault analysis.

In UFI mode, you write programs specifically for one or many UUT's, but 
the programs can be launched by whomever, whenever. This is how i use 
the 9100, with my own custom programs, launched from the operators 
keypad or from my own menu system (video display)

Or you can use it in operator mode, much like the functionality of a 
9010, but you are restricted to keypad functionality unless you have 
written programs that you can call up in stored UUT's.

A good read of the manuals (lengthy reading) will teach you what the 
system is capable of, which is - everything. Providing you put in the 
man hours to cover a pcb, the 9100 will fault find for you, you need 
only follow its on-display instructions and it will isolate a fault for 
you. I dont think anybody is crazy enough to do that however :)


Andrew Welburn
http://www.andys-arcade.com

On 11/12/2012 21:27, David Shoemaker wrote:

> I am really curious about the PARTLIB directory and what that is all about.

> Why are there TTL chips and connectors on the 9100?

>

> David

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com

> [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces at flippers.com] On Behalf Of Andre Huijts

> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 1:44 PM

> To: Technical Tools Mail List

> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Directory success !!! (for HDR that is…)

>

> Thanks to Martin's instruction file about setting up RS-232 comms between a

> PC and the 9100 AND one of his e-mails about the backup utility I succeeded

> in getting a directory from the HD in the 9100.....

>

> I remembered that I still had one of those blue "Laplink"  cables, very nice

> null-modem cable with on one end a sub-9 D and on the other both a sub-9 and

> a sub-25 (?)

> So that fitted perfectly. I used my ancient Toshiba T1910 that I recently

> dug-out to set-up my Needham EMP-10 EPROM programmer.

> I searched a bit for a DOS terminal program and I found CONEX75.

>

> I was typing messages from and to the 9100 right away ! :)

>

> Following the instructions about the Backup utility (which turned out to be

> already installed) and using the "capture to file" option I succeeded in

> getting a complete directory.

>

> I could have used my USB to RS-232 cable and the Mac just as well of course

> but this was only to see if I got it to work at all...

>

> Reading further in the PDF I saw that it is not possible to just get a

> directory from a floppy. (The only directory you can get from a floppy is

> from a backup set, using the last disk of the set)

>

> Moved the file using "sneaker net" to the Mac and now I am going to bore you

> guys with the entire directory ! :)

>

> If there is anything wrong (that I should remove) or interesting down

> here....please let me know :)

>

>

> Contents of directory /HDR/

>          Filename            Size     Write Protected    Date    Time

>    ======================  =========  ===============  ===============

>    Info                           47        Protected  09/11/26  21:25

>    MEVALID                         0        Protected  93/10/19  17:12

>    NDISKS                          2        Protected  91/07/24  14:48

>    TEXT$BACKUP.DIR                 0                   09/12/09  22:54

>    ZYSETIOMOD                    944        Protected  90/07/19  14:29

>    ZYSETKYSEQ                   1120        Protected  90/07/19  14:29

>    ZYSETMISC                     116        Protected  90/07/19  14:29

>    ZYSETPOD                      628        Protected  90/07/19  14:29

>    ZYSETRAMRO                     24        Protected  90/07/19  14:29

>

> Contents of directory /HDR/HELPLIB$HELPLIB/

>          Filename            Size     Write Protected    Date    Time

>    ======================  =========  ===============  ===============

>    INFO                           40                   91/04/01  15:54

>    TEXT$BUS1                     545                   91/03/29  15:37

>    TEXT$BUS2                     538                   91/03/29  15:37

>    TEXT$BUS3                     534                   91/03/29  15:37

>    TEXT$BUS4                     537                   91/03/29  15:37

>    TEXT$BUS5                     537                   91/03/29  15:37

>    TEXT$BUS6                     653                   91/03/29  15:37

>    TEXT$CLKMOD1                  103                   91/03/29  15:37

>    TEXT$GEN1                     157                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$INDEX                   1374                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$IOMOD1                    80                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$IOMOD2                   253                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$IOMOD3                   101                   91/03/29  15:38

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>    TEXT$POD9                     395                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$PROBE1                    96                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$RAM1                     538                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$RAM10                    343                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$RAM11                    216                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$RAM12                    261                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$RAM13                    530                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$RAM2                     585                   91/03/29  15:38

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>    TEXT$RAM5                     387                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$RAM6                     226                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$RAM7                     714                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$RAM8                     159                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$RAM9                     161                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$ROM1                     413                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$ROM2                     397                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$ROM3                     217                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$ROM4                     218                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$ROM5                     254                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$ROM6                     303                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$ROM7                     338                   91/03/29  15:38

>    TEXT$UNKNOWN1                 133                   91/03/29  15:38

>

> Contents of directory /HDR/OPTIONS/

>          Filename            Size     Write Protected    Date    Time

>    ======================  =========  ===============  ===============

>

> Contents of directory /HDR/OPTIONS/EDITOR/

>          Filename            Size     Write Protected    Date    Time

>    ======================  =========  ===============  ===============

>    OPTION_NAME                    19        Protected  91/07/24  14:47

>

> Contents of directory /HDR/OPTIONS/EDITOR/ROM/

>          Filename            Size     Write Protected    Date    Time

>    ======================  =========  ===============  ===============

>    COMPATEDITOR                  102        Protected  91/07/24  14:45

>    CONFIGEDITOR                  140        Protected  91/07/24  14:45

>    MEGMAX                     276644        Protected  91/07/24  14:39

>

> Contents of directory /HDR/PARTLIB$PARTLIB/

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