[Techtoolslist] Directory success !!! (for HDR that is.)

[John Robertson]

David Ryskalczyk wrote:

> There's a Teledisk image of a service disk, as well as a bunch of

> other documentation, over here:

>

> http://www.iobium.com/9100a%20tester/

>

> Not sure whether this one is serialized or not.

>

> --David

>   

That's Martin Reynolds site - another TTL past regular...(are you still 
around Martin?)

http://www.iobium.com/9100a%20tester/9100atester.htm

Interesting that he talks about Service disk 6.0...I will take another 
look at the file Service.TD0 on his site, thanks!

John :-#)#

> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:09 PM, John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> wrote:

>   

>> Andre Huijts wrote:

>>     

>>> Andrew....I'm not stupid. I understand what it can do for about 90% by

>>> now, I've read enough to have a pretty clear picture.

>>>

>>> However, without any programs that actually DO a 100% test it's not really

>>> worth anything right ?

>>>

>>> Please stop talking down to me Andrew, I'm not a moron.....

>>>

>>>

>>>       

>> Hey, Andre, Andrew is just pulling your leg!

>>

>> The 9100 can be a bit of a boat anchor/door stop unless you really get into

>> it. They are still in wide use industrially as they are often the only

>> machine keeping production line equipment running that was designed in the

>> 80s and 90s.

>>

>> Even the basic tests are superior to the 9010 though as you can easily store

>> the results and easily make lookup tables for individual games if you have

>> the programming option.

>>

>> I've found the renewed interest in the 9100 (thanks in large part to Andre)

>> to be refreshing my desire to get this great tool in use in my shop - for

>> too many years have they been sitting on a shelf being ignored. I mostly use

>> the 9010 and my collection of pods to troubleshoot, and while that is fine

>> for me, it would benefit my staff if I got a 9100 running with the tests

>> built in for are common game board (Atari, Bally, Williams, etc.) that come

>> through on a regular basis and while the test fixture gives us a pretty good

>> idea of the problems, integrating a 9100 could speed up the tests

>> significantly.

>>

>> The beauty of the 9100 is the GFI. I see building tests for Capcom and other

>> orphans of the pinball world where no test fixtures exist or are more money

>> than one cares to spend when you only see the game once every few years -

>> however a guided test for the driver board, shared with this group, could

>> help a number of shops deal with these games quickly.

>>

>> Making up a Bed Of Nails test jig that is hooked to the 9100 seems to be a

>> good project for 2013 and I for one will be exploring this project in the

>> new year.

>>

>> Have to get past Xams first - we are very busy right now!

>>

>> Still also hoping to find a non-serialized copy of 6.0 Service (was included

>> in the 40MB SCSI upgrade kit) - or even a copy that has a different serial

>> number to compare.

>>

>> Another project is to check the wiring changes to the motherboards - I

>> suspect the latest ones (I have a "G" revision) allow you to use the 1.44

>> floppies, a number of jumpers around the floppy connector...

>>

>> John :-#)#

>>

>>     

>>> Op 13 dec. 2012, om 17:50 heeft Andrew Welburn <andy at andysarcade.net> het

>>> volgende geschreven:

>>>

>>>

>>>       

>>>> Andre..

>>>>

>>>> You havn't read all the manuals, and dont fully grasp what the 9100 can

>>>> do. Its much, much more than a 9010, its a complete 100% pcb test system, as

>>>> i've previously described, its not limited to rams and roms. Read up and

>>>> learn my young jedi.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Andrew Welburn

>>>> http://www.andys-arcade.com

>>>>

>>>> On 13/12/2012 16:45, Andre Huijts wrote:

>>>>

>>>>         

>>>>> Funny, I was thinking about using Centi as well.....reasons were because

>>>>> I own one, it's a raster game (seemed simpler than a vector game to me) and

>>>>> Atari already makes the schematics in "functional blocks"......

>>>>>

>>>>> Been trying to read in the Applications manual today (during work

>>>>> breaks....) and I nodded off at least 10 times....apart from that, it's sure

>>>>> not easy....

>>>>>

>>>>> However.....correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the majority of

>>>>> problems can be found using the very "basic" tests (which are actually

>>>>> pretty thorough) being the address and databusses, finding bad buffers and

>>>>> doing RAM and ROM checks. As such it's not much more than a 9010 I guess,

>>>>> which is a bit of a shame of course, but I don't see anyone investing so

>>>>> many hours to get programs done  for himself or maybe a couple of other guys

>>>>> interested.....

>>>>>

>>>>> It would be cool to have a program for POKEY (if only to make it produce

>>>>> some sounds ;) ) f.i., on the other hand, swapping one takes just seconds

>>>>> and most of the signals of it being defective are pretty well known....

>>>>>

>>>>> Someone should write a program that scans the schematics of any PCB and

>>>>> turns it into a TL/1 program ;)

>>>>>

>>>>> André

>>>>>

>>>>>           

>>